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[prostock69]

Originally Posted by SilverIceman

Great videos! I'm glad all my heater and cooling hoses were clean
I don't think my car will ever be video'd up close and personal like that again! Loved all the little comments! "here we go", "Hmm", "OOh", "Not very Daudy", "Front end's filthy". Yeah, that's a priceless video...Don't lose it.

I think she may have a career in TV video, that seems to be the trend with these TV shows today, camera right up in people's faces and moving all the time. Not sure about the upside down shots Definitely a unique style.

Thanks

[prostock69]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Any of you folks with headers willing to part with your stock exhaust manifolds? When I had my headers installed, I assumed I would be getting a Supercharger down the road. Now it looks like I'm going to go with a twin turbo kit. I'll need a set of stock exhaust manifolds for that. I gave my stock manifolds away when I had the headers put on. Live and learn.

Twin turbos? Don't those make around 1,200-1,500 hp? Holy Cow!!!! Isn't this what Speedster's doing?

[Darin Morgan]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Only if you help out with my husband. He doesn't like cars or football.

Yes. its true. I hate stick and ball sports. If it doesn't turn fuel into power and noise, I am not interested.

Darth_Emma,

You once stated you loved the exhaust note and overall sound of a larger camshaft. If you go with a twin turbo the exhaust note will be totally silent. The turbos kill ALL exhaust sound and all you hear is the turbo spooling up with a high pitch whining sound. In my personal opinion twin turbo packages are for people who want to make an obscene amount of power and put there lives in danger while trying to tame the beast they built. Twin turbo kits are for 1000+ rear wheel cars.

If that's what you want go for it. Just thought I would tell you what your in for.

On another note I have something funny for you. I awoke this morning with the muscles in the front of my neck hurting quite bad. I could not think how I pulled them then I remembered that I made about 50 runs yesterday. They where pulled because when the car accelerates I have to hold my neck up against the G forces! I need to learn to put my head against the head rest when I nail that thing

[Darin Morgan]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Darin:
Thanks for your feedback. I have talked to the guys at IPS and they are all Twin Turbo supporters. I told them I'd like to get my car over 500 rwhp, maybe up to 600, but no more. I don't want to make my car just a monster with no control. I don't want my own car to scare me. I want it to be fun to drive. They did mention that the twin turbo cars are quiet. I don't want a loud car, but a nice rumble is fun.

I am still on the fence between the supercharger and the turbo charger. One thing I know for sure, I am going to see and at least ride in a car that has one of each in it. It's too much money and too big a change in the car to jump in to without knowing what I'll be getting.

What do you think of superchargers?

I do love the sound of a cam. Your car sounds awesome in the videos.

I will go talk to the guys at New Era next week. I won't dive into anything without knowing what I'm getting myself in to.

I'm sure I will be in touch with you and prostock69 again.

Thank you!

They are correct about the turbo. You can make 600hp really easy. They can make way more and are somewhat scalable once installed. If you get the right install and your making 600hp you can later on turn up the wick and make 700hp if you want. I know your on the fence and your getting info coming at you from all sides. I personally think that supercharges (centrifugal or turbo NOT Roots or high helix) are really easy way to make a lot of power. This is why they are so attractive to the general public. I personally have spent my life in the persuite of power using normally aspirated engines so I want to make power using Camming, compression, RPM and induction system tuning. Many Camaro owners would not take the route I have chose and take the slightly more economical and simpler route of supercharging. Supercharged car have 10 times better street manners than my car and they have power at much lower RPMs so you don't have to turn the engine 7000rpm.

"Roots or High helix type Supercharger"= Two spinning interlocking blades that pre-compress the air in the housing increasing intake charge temp. They make excellent TQ and power but there efficiency curve falls off sharply at higher RPMs. Not my first chioce in superchargers thats for sure. Maggy's are high helix/Roots types superchargers.


"Turbo" Single spinning impeller driven off of exhaust gas pressure and speed. It increases air speed and trades it for boost pressure. No other means of supercharging is as efficient. The power and RPM potential of a turbo far exceeds any other means of supercharging. In my opinion the draw backs are packaging. Since the exhaust gas is the energy source that makes the boost the air must pass over the hot impeller making the the need for a good inter-cooler a must! Under hood heat issues are also something you have to contend with.

"centrifugal" Basicly a crankshaft driven turbo charger. This single spinning impeller Increases air velocity and trades air speed for air pressure "boost". Awesome street manners, very high power potential, scalable for future power increases and in my opinion, the best over all street power adder there is. You have no under hood heat issues like a turbo charger. If the belt that drives the supercharger breaks the engine will still run. A Roots type will not keep running if the belt fails. An inter-cooler is not necessary inmost cases but recommended anyway.
Pro-Chargers, Vortech and Paxton are centrifugal superchargers.

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Any of you folks with headers willing to part with your stock exhaust manifolds? When I had my headers installed, I assumed I would be getting a Supercharger down the road. Now it looks like I'm going to go with a twin turbo kit. I'll need a set of stock exhaust manifolds for that. I gave my stock manifolds away when I had the headers put on. Live and learn.

Funny you say that, I was cleaning out my barn and had to move mine... again thinking WTF am I going to do with these anchors... BUT... read below...

Originally Posted by gahammerle

OK, next cruise-in, double team my wife.

Wha?? do what with your wife???

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Darin:
Thanks for your feedback. I have talked to the guys at IPS and they are all Twin Turbo supporters. I told them I'd like to get my car over 500 rwhp, maybe up to 600, but no more. I don't want to make my car just a monster with no control. I don't want my own car to scare me. I want it to be fun to drive. They did mention that the twin turbo cars are quiet. I don't want a loud car, but a nice rumble is fun.

I am still on the fence between the supercharger and the turbo charger. One thing I know for sure, I am going to see and at least ride in a car that has one of each in it. It's too much money and too big a change in the car to jump in to without knowing what I'll be getting.

What do you think of superchargers?

I do love the sound of a cam. Your car sounds awesome in the videos.

I will go talk to the guys at New Era next week. I won't dive into anything without knowing what I'm getting myself in to.

I'm sure I will be in touch with you and prostock69 again.

Thank you!

I agree with EVERYTING Darin just said... You want a supercharger, centrifudal.... MYFNSS put down about 640HP at the wheels at dyno day. Its an LS3. G6x3 cam, headers, highflow cats, Flowmaster exhaust and a procharger. Sounds mean as hell and really puts down the power. Darin is right, turbos are DEAD quiet. I used to run my TSi Talon with ZERO exhaust and it was silent....

Look into the centrifudal. Crazy power that comes on a little slower than a maggie so the around town driveablilty is amazing. A maggie is RIGHT NOW power and you have to know how to drive it or you'll be in a ditch in no time!

I know you are an IPS girl and thats your perogative but stay tuned... Someone from Tennessee just dropped of an L99 to CincySpeed and said he wants 600 min at the wheels... they said its completely do able. It is getting cammed and a procharger. You may have to look into a new torque converter that can handle that kind of power! If you are only looking 500 at the wheels, a procharger would be enough, woundn't even need to cam... unless you want to.

As for the manifolds, I am going to hang on to the for now... If you decide you are dead set on a turbo and order the parts... we can work something out.

[gahammerle]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Wha?? do what with your wife???

Um, uh, whoops! I need to proof-read before I click submit.

Quite a few years ago, she had to get a scan on her head, and I said without thinking afterwards that they didn't find anything. I was happy they didn't find any problems, but I should have chosen my words a little better.

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Oh and btw, I'm not an "IPS girl."

Well... I understand if you are, I am VERY loyal to brands/shops. As long as they do me right, I stick with them. It seems IPS has been "doing you right" -minds out of the gutter - so thats all I was getting at. I am and will stay loyal to CincySpeed because I trust them. I wouldn't even consider shopping around. To me, building the relationship I have with those guys means more to me than saving a couple bucks (if I even could) at another shop. If I can't do it myself, they do... period... even though I hear there is this shop in milford...

Thats all I was getting at, not trying to convey any disrespect!

[prostock69]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

I frequently think that perhaps I should just stop where I'm at with modding my car. It's pretty fast. It makes a very nice sound. It looks pretty cool. I should be happy with what I have. Then I read more on Camaro 5 and say "that's cool, me wants!"

I'm right there with you on that! We should stop modding now. We got the power we wanted and the exhaust sound is perfect. Then I see a set of wheels on a car and I want them. Now Darin is talking sway bars, lowering kit, blacked out rear end with matching black tail light bezels, new floor mats, and bling for under the hood to make the engine look nicer. And finally, he wants to build a 440 cubic inch motor for it that will produce 600+ hp to the rearwheels just kick the super charged cars' butts (no offense intended to SC's cars). He's a normally aspirated man. When will it stop????

p.s. sorry for my above comment about the twin turbos that you wanted for your car. I didn't realize they came with different levels of horse power. Darin informed me of this after I posted.

[jrpxxii]

Hey Darth_Emma, I dropped my car off at Cincy Speed on Saturday during dyno day and I dont know how quickly you are wanting to decide, but you might want to keep up with the build they are doing on my car as I had the TVS2300 and it made 750hp to the rear wheels without the nitrous and we are now going with the Procharger F1-R and doing some serious HP numbers. It might persuade you for a s/c. Basically it all comes down to how you want the power and do you want it to sound like a muscle car. My car will sound like a top fuel dragster when its done but thats what I want, a 1200hp monster and I want to hear it. The turbo setup is silent but just doesnt do it for ME but lots of people think turbo is the way to go. You cant go wrong with either and IPS is top notch. I am very excited to work with Craig at Cincy Speed as they are very into what they do and I have full confidence in these guys to pull off a one of a kind build. Just my .02

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by prostock69

I'm right there with you on that! We should stop modding now. We got the power we wanted and the exhaust sound is perfect. Then I see a set of wheels on a car and I want them. Now Darin is talking sway bars, lowering kit, blacked out rear end with matching black tail light bezels, new floor mats, and bling for under the hood to make the engine look nicer. And finally, he wants to build a 440 cubic inch motor for it that will produce 600+ hp to the rearwheels just kick the super charged cars' butts (no offense intended to SC's cars). He's a normally aspirated man. When will it stop????

p.s. sorry for my above comment about the twin turbos that you wanted for your car. I didn't realize they came with different levels of horse power. Darin informed me of this after I posted.

I meant to have Darin drive my car. I told him he could but never got to it. I told him it is a whole new experience with the sways and springs. For your car and the power it is making, you want them!! the whole kit, sways and springs will set you back about $600 I think. I paid $200 for my springs and only $180 for both sways but that was a Camaro5 Fest deal ONLY. They wont touch that now! Seriously, it really changes the car! Huh Emma???!!!

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Hey Darth_Emma, I dropped my car off at Cincy Speed on Saturday during dyno day and I dont know how quickly you are wanting to decide, but you might want to keep up with the build they are doing on my car as I had the TVS2300 and it made 750hp to the rear wheels without the nitrous and we are now going with the Procharger F1-R and doing some serious HP numbers. It might persuade you for a s/c. Basically it all comes down to how you want the power and do you want it to sound like a muscle car. My car will sound like a top fuel dragster when its done but thats what I want, a 1200hp monster and I want to hear it. The turbo setup is silent but just doesnt do it for ME but lots of people think turbo is the way to go. You cant go wrong with either and IPS is top notch. I am very excited to work with Craig at Cincy Speed as they are very into what they do and I have full confidence in these guys to pull off a one of a kind build. Just my .02

I am jonesin to see your build go through the stages. I will be following closely! It is going to be bad to the bone! you're looking for over 1000 at the wheels right?

[jrpxxii]

Our goal is a MINIMUM of 1200hp to the rear wheels at only 24psi and the F1-R is capable of 38psi, so it still has ALOT to give. I also will have my nitrous system on top of that so I can get as crazy as I want but this be a good starting point....LOL I also want to thank everyone that was there for all the help getting the car unloaded and into the shop. Camaro5 people are the best!

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Our goal is a MINIMUM of 1200hp to the rear wheels at only 24psi and the F1-R is capable of 38psi, so it still has ALOT to give. I also will have my nitrous system on top of that so I can get as crazy as I want but this be a good starting point....LOL I also want to thank everyone that was there for all the help getting the car unloaded and into the shop. Camaro5 people are the best!

No problem man... glad to lend a hand! All I ask for is a ride! It doesnt have to be a balls to the wall ride... just a ride!

[prostock69]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

prostock69:
I have drop springs, sway bars, and end links. DO EEEET! That has been BY FAR my favorite mod so far. If I could pick only one of the things I've done, it would be that suspension mod. It really helps on the twisties and it makes the car look even better!

Can you pm me a rough estimate on how much all that cost? We are seriously considering it (if not this year, the beginning of next). Thanks!

Ooops, I didn't see Jason's response up above. That's very reasonable and doable. I'll talk to Darin and see if he can get that stuff cheaper if he got it through his work. Thanks guys!!