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ArcAngel · 01-09-2009, 02:31 PM

I dont believe so people whoo consider the z are usually non american buyers

GatorBlue371 · 01-09-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

I dont believe so people whoo consider the z are usually non american buyers

i looked at the Z , but only long enough to weigh what you get from the Camaro to what you get from the Nissan w/ $$ factored in... that was the last day i ever considered the Z.

shadowed_Stranger · 01-09-2009, 03:01 PM

Everybody in this whole thread is wrong.
No you can't compare the Camaro V8 to the Z V6.
No you can't compare the Camaro V6 to the Z V6.

Why? One car is a 2+2 Usable car with a trunk and the other is a two seater sports car.
Period. Which one is better is totally irrelevant.

ON THE OTHER HAND: The nissan Z is nissans 'pony car' of sorts, while the camaro is GMs. On that note, for similar price, you get similar performance, regardless of what engine is in it (6 or 8 cylinders), or what other features the car has.

69/10 Camarophile · 01-09-2009, 03:30 PM

Some silly anti domestic bias in some of these posts. Borrowing from Obama it seems that some of you assume that GM is static and continue to have extreme predjudice against making an all around quality automobile.

Check out the latest Caddys, Suv etc and you will see some very good quality automobiles. Not quite at the upper echelon of the industry overall but a far far cry from the pathetic cars of yesteryear.

I love the new Camaro looks. Wish it was lighter. Not sure why they had to make it that heavy. Gas guzzler now lugging all that weight around. 3500lbs should have been the limit then the 370z would have no chance. I love the 370z as well and I may end up in that if I dont wait for the Camaro but its going to be closer than some of the biased import guys think in the twisties. Heavy cars are not a death sentence when it comes to handling with todays suspension technology. If GM plays there cards right this car will be a performer in the twisties as well.

BTW the new Cobalt SS couldnt beat the 06 350z in the Car and Driver lightening Lap course at VIR. So its safe to say the 370z will be beyond the Cobalt SS performance envelope as the 370z is neck and neck with the mid engined Porsche Cayman S on a roadcourse. If GM gets the Camaro to go toe to toe with the 370z/Cayman S then that will be a serious accomplishment and I would be ecstatic. Im a total car dude and dont car about brand name or country of origin. If the car is spectacular its spectacular. I happen to think both the Camaro and 370z will be spectacular especially judged on the performance per dollar catagory.

As regards which will win in a straight line Im picking the Camaro just based on what my friends 4200lb SRT8 300C did to my 350z when we were bone stock. He rapped me nastily. Camaro will be lighter then the SRT8 and have 5 more hp and tq. Cant see 26hp bump for the 370z, with no weight loss, beating the more powerful Camaro unless GM saddles the Camaro with horrible gearing/redline. Off the line may be close but after 80 or so the Camaro should pull a little bit. Dont think it will walk the 370z by any means but it should win imho. All speculation until they do a head to head. Pease my car brothas.

Muscle Master · 01-09-2009, 03:33 PM

I do hope that everybody knows that Nissan is working on the NIZMO as we speak

now wheres that link.......BRB

Moose · 01-09-2009, 04:10 PM

I'd like to ask everyone, again, to give some thought to what you're trying to say before posting.

I'm sensing a little lack of respect and I don't want to have to close another thread.

Dakota Kid · 01-09-2009, 04:14 PM

It is an exciting time for performance cars, we have some terrific choices....for pretty reasonable prices.

Joker57676 · 01-09-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UCF w00t

54/46 front/rear

I thought the weight dist. of the Z was supposed to be 53/47?? But either way, Nissan is saying the weight dist. and suspension geometry/setup are such that the balance coming out of a corner (when the weight is on the rear wheels) will be ideal. After the apex when you should be getting back on the gas, the shift in weight returns the weight dist. to ideal 50/50. Nissan designed the car to be slightly heavy over the front axle for this reason (apparently).

Mark

truth411 · 01-09-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

I'd like to ask everyone, again, to give some thought to what you're trying to say before posting.

I'm sensing a little lack of respect and I don't want to have to close another thread.

sorry about that, no disrespect was intended, scouts honor.

Moose · 01-09-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truth411

sorry about that, no disrespect was intended, scouts honor.

Oh I wasn't singling you out...

...I've just been sensing a slight lessening when it comes to respect "across the board".

No need to apologize, and I'll keep my nose out of it...we're all adults and can self-police ourselves.

kylepo · 01-09-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

I've only read Motor Trend's article where they got a 4.7 0-60.
As far as the Camaro's numbers, why don't you go ahead and send me the link to the performance reviews.

are you doubting the camaro will be faster?? their are no reviews for the ss are their?

Boost_TT · 01-09-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaroinmo

You sum it all up pretty well. The 370z will definitely outperform the 350z, so it would be very interesting to see a Ring time.

Man, I am so torn on which one of these cars to get. If I can wait until the Camaro comes out and it comes close to handling like the Z, I will probably go Camaro for the reasons you listed. I would like to have more room, back seat, and storage space. But, performance is more important to me, so I'll have to wait and see.

The 350z that ran that track was the slowest 2003 model of the 350z. Since the 350z in 07 got the HR engine it is much much faster than the DE replacement model and the suspension was revised since then. The HR has been doing low 13s bone stock in the 350z. The 370z will be the same if not a little faster.

Boost_TT · 01-09-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truth411

It is not!! The cars are different. the Camaro is 500lbs heavier because it has a back seat, trunk, and stronger chasis for more powerful drivetrains. If you want to compare apples to apples then compare the 370Z to the 2 seater and more powerful corvette. The are the same class of cars. In other words with the camaro you are ignoreing the combination of performance and practicality it offers that the 370Z does not.

Actually 600-700lb heavier, to be more accurate.

kinyu · 01-09-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

Oh I wasn't singling you out...

...I've just been sensing a slight lessening when it comes to respect "across the board".

No need to apologize, and I'll keep my nose out of it...we're all adults and can self-police ourselves.

People are just passionate about both cars, which is a good sign and should be respected by all.

01-09-2009, 02:31 PM	#211
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01-09-2009, 03:30 PM	#214
69/10 Camarophile Drives: 535i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: limbo Posts: 1	Some silly anti domestic bias in some of these posts. Borrowing from Obama it seems that some of you assume that GM is static and continue to have extreme predjudice against making an all around quality automobile. Check out the latest Caddys, Suv etc and you will see some very good quality automobiles. Not quite at the upper echelon of the industry overall but a far far cry from the pathetic cars of yesteryear. I love the new Camaro looks. Wish it was lighter. Not sure why they had to make it that heavy. Gas guzzler now lugging all that weight around. 3500lbs should have been the limit then the 370z would have no chance. I love the 370z as well and I may end up in that if I dont wait for the Camaro but its going to be closer than some of the biased import guys think in the twisties. Heavy cars are not a death sentence when it comes to handling with todays suspension technology. If GM plays there cards right this car will be a performer in the twisties as well. BTW the new Cobalt SS couldnt beat the 06 350z in the Car and Driver lightening Lap course at VIR. So its safe to say the 370z will be beyond the Cobalt SS performance envelope as the 370z is neck and neck with the mid engined Porsche Cayman S on a roadcourse. If GM gets the Camaro to go toe to toe with the 370z/Cayman S then that will be a serious accomplishment and I would be ecstatic. Im a total car dude and dont car about brand name or country of origin. If the car is spectacular its spectacular. I happen to think both the Camaro and 370z will be spectacular especially judged on the performance per dollar catagory. As regards which will win in a straight line Im picking the Camaro just based on what my friends 4200lb SRT8 300C did to my 350z when we were bone stock. He rapped me nastily. Camaro will be lighter then the SRT8 and have 5 more hp and tq. Cant see 26hp bump for the 370z, with no weight loss, beating the more powerful Camaro unless GM saddles the Camaro with horrible gearing/redline. Off the line may be close but after 80 or so the Camaro should pull a little bit. Dont think it will walk the 370z by any means but it should win imho. All speculation until they do a head to head. Pease my car brothas.

01-09-2009, 04:10 PM	#216
Moose Moderator Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newtown, Pa. Posts: 3,982	I'd like to ask everyone, again, to give some thought to what you're trying to say before posting. I'm sensing a little lack of respect and I don't want to have to close another thread.

01-09-2009, 04:14 PM	#217
Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	It is an exciting time for performance cars, we have some terrific choices....for pretty reasonable prices.