Mustang gives some love to RJT Camaro

[IrocJack]

Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

So I was cruising home on a multi-lane urban Hwy in Nashville with my windows down & radio cranked up. I see in my rear view mirror a older white Mustang gaining ground to catch up with me. Once he is behind me I can see the driver & passenger checking out my car. After a couple of minutes, they pull up beside me on the driver's side. The passenger starts trying to talk to me so I turned down the radio. They want to know what the name of the color of my car is. I told them Red Jewel Tintcoat noting they were not going to make the color anymore. Now there is proof positive that even dirty, RJT in the sun shines through beautifully!

So Ruby back to "your" post-YEA for RJT

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

your 6 would not stand a chance. Also, do you know what MRT stands for??

Originally Posted by BenningJ

Yes I do. That doesn't remove that fact that it makes our V6 sound way better. How do you figure that I wouldn't stand a chance against a 95 GT. I realize he still has the 5.0 but back then they were not that impressive. I know from personal experience they aren't that fast. At any rate, I wasn't going to race him. I just thought he was acting like fool just because he was swerving back and forth between lanes slowing down and speeding up around me. He was a younger guy as well.

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

Your car can accelerate to 60mph in 5.9 secs or so. Your V6 has less torque (which excelerates a car), and alot more weight to even steal more speed.

The 95 Cobra stats are:
0-60 mph: 4.7 Sec. (est.) 1/4 Mile: 13.5 sec. @106.5 mph est. Weight: 3750 lbs

Also, those cars respond well to mods. To assume he had none after all this time(15 years), is foolish on your part.

FIRST of all... Accelerate.....
SECOND, those stats are wrong...

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

In your original post, you did not mention about race near school. You instead, implied your V6 car with MRT exhaust would make a SVT cobra sound foolish. Again, foolish.

Negative; you're foolish.

Originally Posted by DroptopZ

Dude, I'm sorry... but what the HE-Double Hockey sticks are you smoking?

1995 Mustang Cobra5.9 sec14.5 sec @ 98.0 mph

Those cars were a little faster than the internet times, but the GTs got EMBARASSED by the LT1s in those days... and the Cobras were just about an even match. Not saying his LLT is faster, but get your facts straight if you're going to clown on someone. Cobras weren't running mid-13s in those days... unless you think the 90s cobras were faster than the '00-'02 'new edge' cars?

Exactly. Until the 4.6DOHC Romeo engine was introduced in 96......

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

I realize that stats can be all over the place. Fact is, a close friend of mine owned a 95 white cobra. No mods. Consistantly ran high 13 second quarter mile times.

no mods. doubtful. not even tires? shifter? those things matter.
I currently own and run a 96 Cobra with the DOHC. RUns 13.8 consistently. And I womp on 5.0s. [stock or mild upgrades of course] allll. day. long. I laugh when they overheat

If I had an intake, headers, exhaust, and shifter in my v6 Camaro... It would be a fun race, but the Cobra would still win... its got a wicked torque curve and redline.

Now, a 95 Cobra... with an exhaust, and say the guy even had an intake and shifter; just for sh!s n giggles... Running maybe 260 at the crank, in a low end tq 5.0 with no top end. The Camaro runs 312 at the crank and has a 300lb DISadvantage. I still vote Camaro. Every time.

Cobra R..... different story. talk about a spanking...

[IrocJack]

[IrocJack]

Ruby, look what happens when you talk about Camaro's and Mustangs.

[BenningJ]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

Well, why they dropped it, is a story for another day. Perhaps another forum all together! Anywho, when you really think about the Fox mustang with 5.0 and compare it to new 05-2010 mustang (not current 5.0), you still cant argue with the numbers. 300+hp on 2010 vs. 225hp of fox car. Ford made the change and it has resulted in the quickest Mustangs ever to roll out of the factory. We can thank the Fox 5.0's for setting this up.
BTW, if I sound pro Mustang, it is because I own one them as well. As my "name" says: luvfastcars!

No problem. I think it is foolish not to understand and respect heritage of our cars. Nothing, in my mind, can replace the American Muscle Car. Sure Porsches, Ferraris, and Lambos can be fun but for affordability and the amount of fun you can have with American Muscle can be surpassed by none. When I was looking at purchasing my Camaro I seriously considered the Mustang but I have always loved Chevys and more specifically Camaros.

[BenningJ]

Originally Posted by Dire Wolf

I love it when cool people in cool cars give each other respect. So much better than being d-bags towards each other just for the car they drive.

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

FYI...in all my Mustang rant, I skipped the 1996 DOHC's. For a reason...they were slow. To say you romp on 5.0's shows ignorance.

Ahhh, how's fantasy land over there?

95 Cobra 5.0 = 240hp on 3400lbs.
96 Cobra 4.6 DOHC = 305hp on 3400lbs.

I dont know where you get your info there bro-mo-chacho but the evidence is quite clear. Not to mention my personal experience with the car for the past 6 years. I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you of facts. I know and respect 5.0s. Im a car guy, not brand loyal; I'm not car-ist. But truth is truth. Unless dude has a Cobra R; you're talkin out your butt sir.

[TheClassicCarKid]

little random, but after reading those obviously wrong stats about a '95 stock cobra (if you have a cobra that actually weighs 3750lbs check your trunk) I went to see the real specifications and came across this old article from motortrend that was pretty cool...
It's a '65 gt350 vs a '95 cobra R model

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rim/index.html

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

It may show more HP on paper. But that 4.6 you have did not PERFORM in any Mustang until it showed up in the 2003 Mach 1. As a matter of fact, SVT skipped a year of production because the engine did not live up to power standards. But this may please you, as you clearly like under-powered autos.

I know allll about SVT my main man. Don't you fret.
I never said I had the stock engine in my Cobra. It is in-fact a 4.6L DOHC from a 96 Cobra... but it's been completely rebuilt. No power adders, not even a CAI or exhaust. I'm really sorry that you think it's slow; but it's not. Sure, it's not running 11's. Thats totally fine with me; for now.

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

so, your Cobra will not beat your Camaro?

Camaro has some love handles, over 300lb worth. Add in the 30 tq advantage on the Cobra, and the curve of said tq... Cobra wins. Camaro is 0.4 slower.

[RubyCamaro]

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

So, let me get this straight. Above you indicated "BS" to the Camaro V6 getting beat by the '95 Cobra? But your stock '96 4.6l Cobra will beat this same Camaro?

um. yes.

the 95 is slower than the 96. fact.
the v6 camaro is faster than the 95 cobra. fact.
the 96 cobra is faster than the v6 camaro. fact.

so let me spell it out for you.

'10 Camaro beats 95 Cobra.
96 Cobra beats them both.

End of story. You can argue all you want; doesn't change concrete facts.

OP. You're totaly right, I'm sorry, I just hate misinformation being spread about. In honor of Cinco De Mayo; Lo Siento.

I bet 'luvfastcars' still thinks may 5th celebrates Mexico's independence.

Just joshin with ya man; don't take this all so seriously, have a Modelo Negro, calm down, and accept that 95 Cobra isnt faster. The Truth. Shall Set You Free!

[REEFBLUE93]

Didn't the 96-98 Cobra receive different heads/top end than the GT??

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

Didn't the 96-98 Cobra receive different heads/top end than the GT??

Im not sure whether this is sarcasm; coming from a fellow blue oval fan. [Howdy, Comrade!] But yes, yes it did. GT's had SOHC, Cobra had DOHC. Top end on the Cobra looks ridiculously top heavy; those cams are Oh So Sexy. mmm.


[PS, RJT is awesome! hahaha, gotta put something on topic right?!]

[BlkThndr66]

Originally Posted by luvfastcars

I guess I cant convince you that a 95 Cobra will beat a V6 Camaro. As crazy as that sounds....Especially since you own the "little engine Camaro". After all, this V6 is so racey GM puts it alot of their cars such as crossovers and so on...lol ...many moms say it has alot of pick-up...lmao

What really bothers me, is why all you Camaro owners think a V6 Camaro is a "sports car". Give me a break...Now you want to add exhaust and what you have is "american rice". Why amplify the crappy sound of a V6? The only V6 to ever sound good was Buick GN. Oh wait, that Buick only had 235 hp. So your V6 Camaro would beat that too I guess. You keep driving the 6 banger, and think of me when you have to respond to "is that the V8?" .... Meanwhile, I blow by you in my SS or Mustang V8...I'm out of this thread to respect Ruby Camaro.

Awesome. I love a lunchtime chuckle. You're funny. Ever do stand-up?
What a great day.