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Old 05-21-2011, 10:13 PM   #99
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He fully gets it but what we have is a bored wretched sole who is stirring the pot and it's working. Get off that full wallet you claim to have and buy the car to satisfy your needs. Plenty of choices so pick one.
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:17 PM   #100
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Also keep in mind just because 10 or 20 years have passed does not mean that cars will continually get faster and faster. Car speeds have reached a plateau. And that plateau on average is and probably will remain in the 13 to 14 sec range for the average performance car. Sure you can buy faster but it will cost you and will not be considered a standard performance vehicle.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:04 PM   #101
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this thread was doomed from the start. Don't ask me how.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:10 PM   #102
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You're very angry....the passive aggressive insults are cute but not needed.

At the end of the day...we all have our opinions....I can actually spell entitled and I want a Camaro with more power. Sue me.

I've also been in this industry my entire adult life....and from the sounds of it.....my life has been much longer than yours.
problem is your opinion is unreasonable and childish. all I call see in your posts Is
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:19 PM   #103
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Well, anything I would've said has already been said.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:21 PM   #104
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He made some points he felt were important and his opinion was respected. Obviously he wasn't taught or plain forgot, it isn't always what you say but how you say it.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:33 PM   #105
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:35 PM   #106
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The good people at Chevy and GM have done a remarkable job in designing/building these new camaro's and I love mine.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:35 PM   #107
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Hopefully in 2012 I will be loving a ZL-1.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:38 PM   #108
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this thread was doomed from the start. Don't ask me how.
Truth. I've never, ever seen a thread like this on any forum (car, truck, firearms, etc) not turn into a flame fest.

There is always something that could be better, but you are looking at mass production. Then the "it's perfect" loyalists start with "buy something else".

Mass produced = mass produced to the general consumer. Of course things could be better.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:03 PM   #109
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:06 PM   #110
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I recently purchased my 2011 SS and am busy building it into the car that I want it to be. I want more power, I need a better clutch, apparently the rear axles aren't worth crap etc etc. I just read a thread about the driveshaft being a pile of poo and the list goes on.

I would say this in an open letter to Chevrolet....one of my other hobbies are Jeeps. Jeep for years built shallow versions of what real Jeep enthusiasts wanted in order to satisfy the bean counters. They would never build a Jeep Wrangler that was actually a very capable off-roader, at least not REAL off roading.

For years Jeep enthusiasts asked for stronger axles, they asked for locked differentials, they asked for capable suspensions etc. Jeep never built it and the aftermarket prospered. Jeep FINALLY capitulated and built the Rubicon. They built it almost begrudgingly and expected it to be an utter failure due to the costs involved. This model featured Dana 44 axles front and back, electronic lockable axles, electronic swaybar disconnect....in other words...a very capable Jeep.

It cost more sure...but Jeep enthusiasts FLOCKED to this model Jeep and purchased as many as Jeep could make. The extra price tag made this model very profitable for Jeep and they continue to build them today.

I want a Camaro with a stout clutch, performance suspension, a rock solid set of axles and 500 damn horsepower at the rear wheel. I'd like to buy it and race it....not modify it just to make it capable of running with the big dogs. Don't get me wrong, the base SS is a nice car but I'd gladly pay more for a better axle, a stronger clutch and a strong motor.

Learn from Chrysler/Jeep....one of the most inept companies ever....listening to their enthusiast base was a very profitable move for them.
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but isnt that the point of aftermarket? to mod it in the way YOU want it? I love my 2lt, and modding it only makes it more MINE, not just a car off the production line.
There will always still be cosmetic things to set your's apart. Not to mention the more souped it comes out the better it'll be to tune and mod later.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:17 PM   #111
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What are you huffin? If you're in such a hurry for a super Camaro then why did you spend 35k on a car you don't want? And why didn't you buy a 2010 when they first came out? What was the last ride you "suffered" in or did this magical car manufacturer meet all your expectations? I will say I don't think you're a troll and you obviously have some real interest in the new Camaro, I just think you should be happy with what you have. A lot of people would like to have a new Camaro, specially an SS. If you would ask for wisdom instead of a few extra horsepower, you would have a ZL1 or better and a little cash left over.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:38 PM   #112
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Why in the world didn't you buy a Z06 or ZR-1? Chevy makes those BTW.
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