PLEASE NEED HONEST OPINION CAMARO VS MUSTANG

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by newmoon

For 4k in the Camaro you could have a cam installed, cai, LTs, and a tune with tires and somebody who knows how to get down the 1/4 you could see mid 11s, I think the approach to the HP is differant for the two as the 5.0 does not need the cam, but the bottom line would more than likely be the same. I myself am on the fence about whether to go full ahead with mods as I have been there done that with a older 5.0 and a Cobra and regretted it.

The problem is many choose not to mod their SS's as they are worried about warranty. In the 5.0 world I would guess most do mod. so there are a whole lot more faster 5.0s on the prey than SSs.

That's not a fair comparison because if he had the A6 he also would of saved money from not having to replace the clutch and is quite possible to get into the 10's with Ford's awesome stock auto and spend the clutch money on something else to beat said bolt on L99 or save the money it to keep the L99's budget even lower to $2.5k

Isn't one of the cheapest way to get traction in a SS is to buy the expensive 18" C6 Zo6 rims and then drag radials. That ought to eat up a large portion of said budget. Sounds expensive and thats probably why so many SS owners dont own proper drag racing tires compared to all the mustangs I see with dedicated drag tires for pennies on the dollar due to the small 15-17"ers they run. Then kiss you stock IRS bye bye if you happen to have a dead hook if you didn't spend some of that money on that section of the car.

Dollar for dollar the 5.0L wins

Sorry

[Shadowsong]

It just depends on what you like. I don't own a new Mustang or Camaro (I own an older Mustang, in the market for a new car) I have driven, priced, researched the aftermarket on both and here is what I have found..

-I have seen more Camaros than 2010+ Mustangs, even fewer of those Mustangs are 5.0s.
-Looks are subjective.
- Both take VERY well to mods
-Sound is subjective, but I think they both sound good
-Mustangs from what I've researched, and heard people say, seem to be easy to get really good deals on, haven't heard much about camaros.
-Mustang performs better, it's very close, but the Mustang pulls out a win.
-Mustang has MANY more options/packages (the gear ratios being the most notable)

Bottom line is they are BOTH nice cars, perform great, and they both turn heads. Buy what YOU like, either way you won't be disappointed.

[GMRULZ]

If i had my way I would have a franken vehicle. Camaro body, 5.0 motor w/ the gm 6 speed manual and the ford live axle...

Personally I can fix the power problem as I already have see sig, so I went w/ looks and would take a camaro over a mustang for that reason.

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by BigDan

That's not a fair comparison because if he had the A6 he also would of saved money from not having to replace the clutch and is quite possible to get into the 10's with Ford's awesome stock auto and spend the clutch money on something else to beat said bolt on L99 or save the money it to keep the L99's budget even lower to $2.5k

Isn't one of the cheapest way to get traction in a SS is to buy the expensive 18" C6 Zo6 rims and then drag radials. That ought to eat up a large portion of said budget. Sounds expensive and thats probably why so many SS owners dont own proper drag racing tires compared to all the mustangs I see with dedicated drag tires for pennies on the dollar due to the small 15-17"ers they run. Then kiss you stock IRS bye bye if you happen to have a dead hook if you didn't spend some of that money on that section of the car.

Dollar for dollar the 5.0L wins

Sorry

170 for z06 replica rims.

Look at my sig, couple of boltons and a blower stock pulley on stock size nitto 555 Dr`s, stock motor high 10`s.. low 12`s w/ just headers, CAI and a tune, stock tires. Doesn`t take much to make them run, you just need proper part selection which sadly seems to be lacking in the 5th gen community.. As far as the IRS goes, mines completely stock and holds up to over 500rwtq and 1.64 60 foots dead hooking just fine.

[BigDan]

You and your car are one of the few exceptions.

Nice car and keep up the good work.


P.S do you have a link to these 18" C6 ZO6 rims for $170 that will fit the SS?

[wbt]

Originally Posted by chuck wallace

So you follow up his incorrect statement with one of your own?? To say the 5th Gen SS would need a power adder to run the times you have is just plain asinine. C/H/I and a good tune would EASILY put even an L99 into the mid 11's. You're going to eventually get used to the fact that ANYTHING is faster than that Dodge tank you had prior to the Rustystang. I think there's a few Dodge and Ford forums that would love to have their troll back...

BTW the times I saw in your other posts were mid 11's.

Originally Posted by newmoon

For 4k in the Camaro you could have a cam installed, cai, LTs, and a tune with tires and somebody who knows how to get down the 1/4 you could see mid 11s, I think the approach to the HP is differant for the two as the 5.0 does not need the cam, but the bottom line would more than likely be the same. I myself am on the fence about whether to go full ahead with mods as I have been there done that with a older 5.0 and a Cobra and regretted it.

The problem is many choose not to mod their SS's as they are worried about warranty. In the 5.0 world I would guess most do mod. so there are a whole lot more faster 5.0s on the prey than SSs.

Damn sure not what we have seen at our local track. In fact, there is a 2010 Camaro SS A6 car with a ProCharger, LSx intake, cam, full exhaust, tune and drag radials running 11.4's in much better air than I ran the 11.6 in which was 2,500' above SL. Correct that down and that is an 11.29@121 with a terrible 1.68 60' time. We can piss and moan about it all day long but those are cold hard facts. I have yet to see a N/A 2010+ Camaro SS break out of the 12's at our track. The same car I mentioned, pre-blower, was running 12.4's. The owner is a super nice guy.

BTW chuck wallace, your post makes no sense whatsoever. Over the past year I have owned the following:

1. 2010 Camaro 1SS M6
2. 2010 Shelby GT500
3. 2011 Mustang GT (still own)
4. 2010 Challenger R/T (still own)

I guess I shouldn't expect you to be able to follow a user profile...

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by BigDan

You and your car are one of the few exceptions.

Nice car and keep up the good work.


P.S do you have a link to these 18" C6 ZO6 rims for $170 that will fit the SS?

Thanks. I do think its nothing but parts selection though and knowing what works well w/ what. Its all about the setup.

I don`t have the link handy but I think in the whell tire section there is a huge thread about the z06 wheels and links to the replicas.

[usmcjlp]

In all honesty, there is one aspect where Ford beats Chevy hands down, and that is its Ford Racing program. They offer multiple upgrades and the ability to add components from the Boss 302 and GT500, under a Ford warranty program. If you find a participating Ford dealer, you can have these components installed before taking delivery.

As a Camaro SS owner, I have installed Pedder's suspension, Whipple Supercharger, kook's headers, and way too many others to list. Personally it has been a huge pain in the ass wading through all the false performance claims on the forums to find what works. Some of the mods I have tried, have been absolute garbage. These are mods that were purchased from respected vendors on this site. There is no protection when modding. Not to mention voiding your warranty.

As a GM customer, one request I have is please develop a similar program to compete with Ford. Had the option been available, I would have bought my parts from GM. I will be deployed for the next 18 months. I am keeping my Camaro long term. But when I get back, I am seriously researching the upcoming 2014 5.8L GT500, because of Ford's support of performance mods.

For the OP's question of Mustang vs. Camaro, do you intend to do performance upgrades in the future? If so, I recommend you take a good look here:

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...arts_s/236.htm

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by usmcjlp

In all honesty, there is one aspect where Ford beats Chevy hands down, and that is its Ford Racing program. They offer multiple upgrades and the ability to add components from the Boss 302 and GT500, under a Ford warranty program. If you find a participating Ford dealer, you can have these components installed before taking delivery.

As a Camaro SS owner, I have installed Pedder's suspension, Whipple Supercharger, kook's headers, and way too many others to list. Personally it has been a huge pain in the ass wading through all the false performance claims on the forums to find what works. Some of the mods I have tried, have been absolute garbage. These are mods that were purchased from respected vendors on this site. There is no protection when modding. Not to mention voiding your warranty.

As a GM customer, one request I have is please develop a similar program to compete with Ford. Had the option been available, I would have bought my parts from GM. I will be deployed for the next 18 months. I am keeping my Camaro long term. But when I get back, I am seriously researching the upcoming 2014 5.8L GT500, because of Ford's support of performance mods.

For the OP's question of Mustang vs. Camaro, do you intend to do performance upgrades in the future? If so, I recommend you take a good look here:

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...arts_s/236.htm

I buy from this site, which is Ford's site. Ford is making money on Mods, imagine that. You are right, the others are behind the curve.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/home/home.asp

Gotta love the Super packs they sell (aka SuperChargers).

[spyderbuddy]

Real simple for me I'd rather have a Hyundia than a Piece of Ford. I've had:
1966 Ford Fairlane, Its was a piece of junk, Had a 200 straight Six
1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero, gave it a try, had to sell it because of transmission went bad 3 mths after buying it.
1970 Ford galaxie 500, engine smoked more than the bar maids
1973 Ford grand torino, 460 PI this car was so heavy it could not even get out of it's own way. plus the valve seals went bad.

I've had nothing from Ford but junk.


And I'm sure the Mustang is nothing but junk.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Real simple for me I'd rather have a Hyundia than a Piece of Ford. I've had:
1966 Ford Fairlane, Its was a piece of junk, Had a 200 straight Six
1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero, gave it a try, had to sell it because of transmission went bad 3 mths after buying it.
1970 Ford galaxie 500, engine smoked more than the bar maids
1973 Ford grand torino, 460 PI this car was so heavy it could not even get out of it's own way. plus the valve seals went bad.

I've had nothing from Ford but junk.


And I'm sure the Mustang is nothing but junk.

Are you serious? and you think Chevy and Dodge made good realiable cars back then too? Wasn't til just a few years ago that US car manufacturers started taking quality seriously. Imports got to where they are today because of the poor quality of our cars back then. No offense but I think you are stuck in the past. I have had maybe 20 Chevy cars and 2 Fords and over 25 imports. the Chevy's were more problematic than the others. Do I still think the GM cars cars of today are junk, NO!

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Real simple for me I'd rather have a Hyundia than a Piece of Ford. I've had:
1966 Ford Fairlane, Its was a piece of junk, Had a 200 straight Six
1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero, gave it a try, had to sell it because of transmission went bad 3 mths after buying it.
1970 Ford galaxie 500, engine smoked more than the bar maids
1973 Ford grand torino, 460 PI this car was so heavy it could not even get out of it's own way. plus the valve seals went bad.

I've had nothing from Ford but junk.


And I'm sure the Mustang is nothing but junk.

My friend has a 1988 trans am that's a total piece of crap. GM products must all be crap. Flawless logic.

[28.]

Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Real simple for me I'd rather have a Hyundia than a Piece of Ford. I've had:
1966 Ford Fairlane, Its was a piece of junk, Had a 200 straight Six
1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero, gave it a try, had to sell it because of transmission went bad 3 mths after buying it.
1970 Ford galaxie 500, engine smoked more than the bar maids
1973 Ford grand torino, 460 PI this car was so heavy it could not even get out of it's own way. plus the valve seals went bad.

I've had nothing from Ford but junk.


And I'm sure the Mustang is nothing but junk.

U gotta be kidding me...

Anyways OP try both and get what u want. Save a bit then go back and get the other one later..

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Real simple for me I'd rather have a Hyundia than a Piece of Ford. I've had:
1966 Ford Fairlane, Its was a piece of junk, Had a 200 straight Six
1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero, gave it a try, had to sell it because of transmission went bad 3 mths after buying it.
1970 Ford galaxie 500, engine smoked more than the bar maids
1973 Ford grand torino, 460 PI this car was so heavy it could not even get out of it's own way. plus the valve seals went bad.
I've had nothing from Ford but junk.

And I'm sure the Mustang is nothing but junk.

LMAO. Buy a car that is newer than 50 years old already.....

Dam kid's drivin' around in dem new fangled cars.......