My Camaro went home to Oshawa to die......

[SSOOCH]

You can't keep Hugger down!!!

[f5journal]

So, I take it this is a "long block"...since the majority of all the externals are fine?

[Russell James]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Hard to pin it on them....I suspect a connecting rod failed before the pin broke.


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I highly doubt the rod as the cause. Very rare for these engines to break a rod with no other cause. Plus the piston in a broken rod motor would probably look different. The broken rods I've seen, often the piston is in a few big pieces.

When you smack a cast piston into open valves at high RPM it looks like yours - shattered into a thousand pieces. That impact can also then fracture the cast rod or it can fracture when it jams into the cylinder wall.

Plus the fact that Comp Cams is well aware of their little pin length problem. When that pin shears you see most of the valves bent, and a piston/rod or two taken out if at high RPM. Especially if stronger push rods were used.

I think the cam pin problem is much more likely.


Be real careful with the debris on anthing being reused, like the intake or oil cooler. Many will take the safe route and not reuse those two parts. Especially the oil cooler. Very hard to get every shard of sharp aluminum out of those.

[TonyNo]

I think I saw a pic where parts shot through the manifold, so, that kills the reuse anyway.

[Nvincent4708]

there ya go!

How fun was it to mate the trans up to the engine? This wasn't fun when doing mine.

My internals will stay the same too.. but a supercharger is a bolt on..right?

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by Toasty

Hey, it's backwards
hahaha made you look! :P

you've got a bit of time before the Hooters cruise, get movin!

We did think about putting it in sideways for a minute or two

Originally Posted by trm0002

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


VROOM

VROOM

Trent, I can't thank you enough for all you've done man!

Originally Posted by garcmol

Originally Posted by toesuf94

Way to go Hugger! It looks great in there.

Please tell me the grenaded block will now become a coffee table somewhere....slap some glass on it and call it a "gentle reminder". That is quite the destruction there. Wow.

I wanted to make it into a planter....alas I had to surrender the core and it's all related parts to GM to get the stellar price i got on the engine.

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

You can't keep Hugger down!!!

Nope....takes more than broken parts to keep me down.

Originally Posted by f5journal

So, I take it this is a "long block"...since the majority of all the externals are fine?

It's a long block complete from valve covers to oil pan...made it pretty damn easy.

Originally Posted by Russell James

I highly doubt the rod as the cause. Very rare for these engines to break a rod with no other cause. Plus the piston in a broken rod motor would probably look different. The broken rods I've seen, often the piston is in a few big pieces.

When you smack a cast piston into open valves at high RPM it looks like yours - shattered into a thousand pieces. That impact can also then fracture the cast rod or it can fracture when it jams into the cylinder wall.

Plus the fact that Comp Cams is well aware of their little pin length problem. When that pin shears you see most of the valves bent, and a piston/rod or two taken out if at high RPM. Especially if stronger push rods were used.

I think the cam pin problem is much more likely.


Be real careful with the debris on anthing being reused, like the intake or oil cooler. Many will take the safe route and not reuse those two parts. Especially the oil cooler. Very hard to get every shard of sharp aluminum out of those.

I'm not sure I'll ever know what really caused the failure, the one thing I think we can all agree on is that it was EPIC.

I did purchase a new intake....the oil cooler looked to be okay, but I flushed it multiple times to be safe. No metal debris came out of it on any of the flushings. Once the rod went through the block/pan it was lights out for the engine...

Originally Posted by TonyNo

I think I saw a pic where parts shot through the manifold, so, that kills the reuse anyway.

Tony, parts shot EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Nvincent4708

there ya go!

How fun was it to mate the trans up to the engine? This wasn't fun when doing mine.

My internals will stay the same too.. but a supercharger is a bolt on..right?

How fun was it?!?!? IT SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I figured we'd spend 30 minutes dropping it in tops......took us almost an hour and half of wrestling with it to finally get it lined up.

Supercharger is bolt on.....the powdered internals scare the hell out of me...I'm not gonna lie to ya. I don't think I'm doing anything special to this engine. Don't want to go through this again!

[Toasty]

Don't want to go through this again!

Engine removal/install is always faster the second time around....

[AnnaBear@SpartaChevy]

Originally Posted by Toasty

Engine removal/install is always faster the second time around....

[Nvincent4708]

Originally Posted by Toasty

Engine removal/install is always faster the second time around....

Been there..done that.. over 10-15 times with different cars.

Eh a safe 6-8psi can't hurt with a perfect tune

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by Toasty

Engine removal/install is always faster the second time around....

Don't even go there.........

Originally Posted by AnnaBear@SpartaChevy

You too!

Originally Posted by Nvincent4708

Been there..done that.. over 10-15 times with different cars.

Eh a safe 6-8psi can't hurt with a perfect tune

What did you end up doing with your oil cooler? And did you reflash back to the OEM tune before your break in?

[Nvincent4708]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

What did you end up doing with your oil cooler? And did you reflash back to the OEM tune before your break in?

Put the oil cooler back on. I had the Camaro oil pan still (yours is in a million pieces i know). Everything mated up fine. What pan did your ls3 come with?

Yeah I flashed the tune back to stock during break in with my netbook and set it at 1200RPM for idle so it would break in. Then changed the tune again after break in for a normal idle. Just flashed it again last week for the headers and such. Seems good to go.

[TGG1SS]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Sorry for the crap cellphone pic....

But the engine is IN!!!!

COOLNESS!!!

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by Nvincent4708

Put the oil cooler back on. I had the Camaro oil pan still (yours is in a million pieces i know). Everything mated up fine. What pan did your ls3 come with?

Yeah I flashed the tune back to stock during break in with my netbook and set it at 1200RPM for idle so it would break in. Then changed the tune again after break in for a normal idle. Just flashed it again last week for the headers and such. Seems good to go.

My crate engine already had the Camaro pan & balancer on it....I didn't need to swap anything over. Did you flush out your oil cooler before you put it back on?

I'm just concerned about breaking it in with the cam tune....not so much the idle ( which is @ 950 ) but more about the car running rich and washing the oil off the rings. I'm thinking the fuel tables from 1500 - 3000 rpm shouldn't be so wild rich that any harm would be done...the O2 sensors should adjust.

But I will need a retune ASAP!

Originally Posted by TGG1SS

COOLNESS!!!

[Nvincent4708]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

My crate engine already had the Camaro pan & balancer on it....I didn't need to swap anything over. Did you flush out your oil cooler before you put it back on?

I'm just concerned about breaking it in with the cam tune....not so much the idle ( which is @ 950 ) but more about the car running rich and washing the oil off the rings. I'm thinking the fuel tables from 1500 - 3000 rpm shouldn't be so wild rich that any harm would be done...the O2 sensors should adjust.

But I will need a retune ASAP!

Should be okay at idle. Might be a little rich, but nothing to cause an issue. Just get a tune ASAP and you should be good.

And yeah I flushed mine with the parts washer and compressed air, just like the intake..that took FOREVER.