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... actually, I think it's a chrysler thing. Gives me the heebyjeebies when ya'll use it. ...almost bad as calling a "wheel", a "rim". nothing personal, just FYI
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ATS also will have more glass and two more doors on it. I would imagine doors add weight and I know glass does. That said, I doubt the aluminum hood would make it on the Camaro, and the magnesium engine mount brackets might not either. What can be said, with pretty good certainty, is that the next Camaro will be significantly lighter than the current one. One other thing to think about is how big the Camaro will be compared to the ATS. Same platform, but what about overall length? ATS is about 6 inches shorter than the Gen5, does that mean the Gen6 Camaro will be smaller than the current car? That could add weight as well. |
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Perhaps my math is wrong...but this may just be a VERY light car.
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Since they only rounded to one figure after the decimal place, you could have a range of 3386 to 3414 pounds (using 10.75 to 10.84 lbs per HP).
An LT Camaro with the same engine and transmission combination weighs 3720lbs. So the ATS is at least 300lbs lighter. An SS with a stick is 3850lbs, so we're talking 3550lbs for a fully loaded Camaro with a V8. If some of the features standard on the ATS are not added to the Camaro, you may be looking at sub 3500lbs for a V8 Camaro. Plus I stand by what I said earlier, that the extra doors and glass on the ATS add weight that the Camaro won't have. There will also be significantly less sound deadening material, which isn't light. |
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Maybe we should not have made this thread for like 3 years or so......
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Theres alot of verbiage discussed, bandied about, and tossed around here that I, and many of my colleagues, have discussed about the ZL1 for over a year, none of which I recall you posting about until recently, sooooo... here's a recent link to go with that....and as things stand you can say what you will, for now....<as my teeth clench ever so slightly into my tongue>
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I'm going to Bing for a pic of doodoo hittin' the fan. Shovels at the ready, ACE hardware is open if you need 'em.
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.... SMACK.... am I a noob to the Zee threads? Fen... he called me a noob... you gonna let him get away with that? .... Clyde??? aww... c'mon guys
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Unveil talked about a lot of aluminum and magnesium in the undercarriage. I can see some of that changing over to steel for the 6th gen.
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MisterCamaro69, perhaps it's the "tone" of what you are saying combined with random appearences in these threads, or not. Sometimes my fuzzy old brain takes a while to remember who has contributed to these threads and who hasn't if it hasn't been recent.
That said, back to the topics at hand. It sounds to me like the new chassis is going to fall within the range I said I hoped for a few weeks back, I said I felt certain the new ATS chassis would allow a 200 lb. weight reduction, but I was really hoping for a 300-400 lb. reduction and it looks like it will be very close to that. Clyde |
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Actually, these guys come to mind..but at least they were comical...
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