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kuzman89 · 02-26-2012, 01:02 AM

Sorry everyone for writing what I did. Didn't mean to kick up a shitfest and denigrate anyones hard effort, and more importantly make things harder for Mace who have been putting their uttermost effort into producing these cams. Sorry to tracy for my comments also, they were uneducated.

Take it easy.

Al.

hapisok · 02-26-2012, 02:39 PM

so...back to the CAMS at hand.

i talked with a local speed shop this weekend about getting some head work done (for the camaro). he quoted me $1300(plus another $350-400 for heads) and couldn't guarantee anything other than it'll take a couple weeks due to R&D, which is to be expected. but seeing how they are a speed shop that is all about 8 cylinders...a lot to do with the LS motor's, i walked away not feeling to hopeful. im sure he would do a stellar job...but i'd rather have a guarantee for that price.
simply put, to me it comes down to cost and performance. with tracy's joint effort between MACE and Brodix, i think they'll provide the best combination of aftermarket head support to match the CAMs. the most disappointing comment the engineer made was "in my opinion, you're going about it backward. if i were you, i'd do the heads THEN find a CAM to match. but it can be done the other way around too."...

it didn't ruin my day, but definitely swayed me from investing my money into a "possibly, i don't know cause i've never worked on those heads before." kinda of decision. matching heads to the cams is something Tracy is already working out...so hopefully a product sooner than later...

could a new intake manifold be next in line to boost performance with the heads and CAMs? more plenum volume and longer runners?

keep up the good work guys...and thanks to the both of you, Tracy and Steve.

MACE_ENG · 02-26-2012, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrackie

I see Mace is waiting for custom valve "shims". I am only familiar with the suzuki outboard motors when it comes to shim buckets. On those motors every valve could have a different shim under it. Are our motors, valves shimed or is each "shim" just a tappet and not a "shim"? I guess what I am asking is would a set of cams come with 24 new "tappets" all of the same thickness or a giant box of different thickness "shims" that we would have to set and check and swap till correct? We used to stock dozens if not hundreds of shims to set the valves on our suzuki outboards.

They'll be set shims for the install. So there is no need to worry about any mixed bag shims with various thicknesses to contend with

Macrackie · 02-26-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACE_ENG

They'll be set shims for the install. So there is no need to worry about any mixed bag shims with various thicknesses to contend with

Fantastic. I always hated shiming valves.

OOLIE · 02-26-2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuzman89

Sorry everyone for writing what I did. Didn't mean to kick up a shitfest and denigrate anyones hard effort, and more importantly make things harder for Mace who have been putting their uttermost effort into producing these cams. Sorry to tracy for my comments also, they were uneducated.

Take it easy.

Al.

Yeah I am sorry too kuzman, I got a little worked up and jumped you pretty hard. I know Tracy personally and it just set me off. Hopefully we can move forward as a group, as we really all are on the same team.

No hard feelings on my end, I hope you stick around for the great things about to happen for us.

CamaroC-17 · 02-27-2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OOLIE

Yeah I am sorry too kuzman, I got a little worked up and jumped you pretty hard. I know Tracy personally and it just set me off. Hopefully we can move forward as a group, as we really all are on the same team.

No hard feelings on my end, I hope you stick around for the great things about to happen for us.

Awe sounds like some man love going on here lol

MACE_ENG · 02-27-2012, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrackie

Fantastic. I always hated shiming valves.

One shim, one hole (x 24) that's it

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroc5

Awe sounds like some man love going on here lol

Indeed

LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack0999

Yeah I am just waiting for a final product and to see what they will sound like. I'm going to start saving my money,

because I will definatly get which ever company is cheaper, I'm just curious why comp cams isn't doing camshafts for this car.

The reason COMP aren't interested is that they're probably not stupid enough to do so from a financial perspective, they're not a cheap to develop, vs sales volumes. Us being emotionally attached to these engines, are on the other hand. Is that a good thing? I suppose time will tell, as whether or not I'm sleeping on the couch will depend on it's success LOL

lscamaro · 02-27-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by MACE_ENG

Quote:

The reason COMP aren't interested is that they're probably not stupid enough to do so from a financial perspective, they're not a cheap to develop, vs sales volumes. Us being emotionally attached to these engines, are on the other hand. Is that a good thing? I suppose time will tell, as whether or not I'm sleeping on the couch will depend on it's success LOL

I think if it produces some good power and are priced right, you could be looking at a gold mine. I know I would rather stay na than go fi at the moment and if these produce enough power to where I can be happy, then I'm buying them. Then, I could even pair them with some fi in the future if i so wish

bmorecam · 02-27-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OOLIE

Yeah I am sorry too kuzman, I got a little worked up and jumped you pretty hard. I know Tracy personally and it just set me off. Hopefully we can move forward as a group, as we really all are on the same team.

No hard feelings on my end, I hope you stick around for the great things about to happen for us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuzman89

Sorry everyone for writing what I did. Didn't mean to kick up a shitfest and denigrate anyones hard effort, and more importantly make things harder for Mace who have been putting their uttermost effort into producing these cams. Sorry to tracy for my comments also, they were uneducated.

Take it easy.

Al.

TJ91 · 02-27-2012, 12:14 PM

so about those Cams

scrubby43 · 02-27-2012, 12:21 PM

just a little more patience it will all be worth it.

bmorecam · 02-27-2012, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrubby43

just a little more patience it will all be worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ91

so about those Cams

I believe you guys can grab the cams now if you don't want to wait for testing

So scrubby, cams are def in your future?

Can't wait to see your result since you actually have the cylinder head's inlet and exhaust side ported. You might as well finish it out with the bowls and angle job while you are at it

hapisok · 02-27-2012, 12:36 PM

how about the tune though? has there been any preliminary work with vince to have a baseline tune prior to installng the cams?

bmorecam · 02-27-2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapisok

how about the tune though? has there been any preliminary work with vince to have a baseline tune prior to installng the cams?

That's going to be a whole another ball game

02-26-2012, 02:39 PM	#226
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	so...back to the CAMS at hand. i talked with a local speed shop this weekend about getting some head work done (for the camaro). he quoted me $1300(plus another $350-400 for heads) and couldn't guarantee anything other than it'll take a couple weeks due to R&D, which is to be expected. but seeing how they are a speed shop that is all about 8 cylinders...a lot to do with the LS motor's, i walked away not feeling to hopeful. im sure he would do a stellar job...but i'd rather have a guarantee for that price. simply put, to me it comes down to cost and performance. with tracy's joint effort between MACE and Brodix, i think they'll provide the best combination of aftermarket head support to match the CAMs. the most disappointing comment the engineer made was "in my opinion, you're going about it backward. if i were you, i'd do the heads THEN find a CAM to match. but it can be done the other way around too."... it didn't ruin my day, but definitely swayed me from investing my money into a "possibly, i don't know cause i've never worked on those heads before." kinda of decision. matching heads to the cams is something Tracy is already working out...so hopefully a product sooner than later... could a new intake manifold be next in line to boost performance with the heads and CAMs? more plenum volume and longer runners? keep up the good work guys...and thanks to the both of you, Tracy and Steve. __________________

02-27-2012, 12:14 PM	#234
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	so about those Cams __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

02-27-2012, 12:21 PM	#235
scrubby43 Drives: 2010 camaro 2lt RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Danbury, Ct Posts: 58	just a little more patience it will all be worth it. __________________ 2010 2LT RS Cyber Gray Metallic, White ralley stripes, JBA Shortie headers, SOLO perf HFC & Res. Magnaflow cat back, SS Brakes, Eibach Sways & Springs, Trifecta tune, VMAX throttle body & Catch Can, Custom ported intake, heads, Black ICE-olator, VARARAM.

02-27-2012, 12:36 PM	#237
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	how about the tune though? has there been any preliminary work with vince to have a baseline tune prior to installng the cams? __________________

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02-26-2012, 01:02 AM	#225
kuzman89 Drives: Ly7 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: bezza Posts: 253	Sorry everyone for writing what I did. Didn't mean to kick up a shitfest and denigrate anyones hard effort, and more importantly make things harder for Mace who have been putting their uttermost effort into producing these cams. Sorry to tracy for my comments also, they were uneducated. Take it easy. Al.