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DkknightX · 05-10-2009, 02:55 PM

"21in rims- Now I cant figure this one out, are they the black rims? But either way my car comes with 20" why would I pay 4k more for a inch bigger tire, i dont see a lot of people buying these. Now I can see if they went for another 500 or something, another thing is good luck finding a tire for a 21inch rim."

I think that was the whole point. So that if you needed tires or rims, you'd have to go through GM so they can have their way with you.

nards444 · 05-10-2009, 02:55 PM

You all bring up good points, I think the consesus is that teh 21in rims are going over well. But like one of you pointed out is the grouping doesnt make sense, but again saves cost. Also they are having options out there that are already on the car. For instance you get a SS then the RS package, well the SS has the painted rims and spoiler, granted they adjusted the price. Like My self I would get leather seats but dont want the heating element which probably drives the seats up double. And the Mirror crap dont want it and will be useless but the steering wheel controls will be cool. So I i just dont think GM did the best job possible on grouping and price. Some options are nice and are good priced. Instead of all of the nickle and dime inter ops i would have like to see some more performance options. exahust, super charger, etc. I mean a muscle car is about power not about all these girlie interior options.

Chief00 · 05-10-2009, 02:56 PM

Myself this will be my daily driver. I can't afford to spend money on this car for driving only 8 months a year. Idealy I would agree with some of the points made. But not everyone is in the same situation as you that won't make use of the heated options.

LosXC451 · 05-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fireresq157

Heated seats It can get down to the 20's usually 30's inland even here in south FLA so yes I would use them then. So would many people in the south when they drive their cars in winter.

If only it snowed down here....

...

Chief00 · 05-10-2009, 02:59 PM

If only it DIDN't snow up here....

rmbrady · 05-10-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nards444

Ok the new Camaro is great, and I my order for a 1SS/RS is going in tomorrow and dealer said by July it should be here, so I dont know what these 10 month waits are all about.

But GM's options in my opinion are cool but a the same time do not make whole lot of sense, an if anybody sits down and thinks about it probably wont get them. I have my beef with the ones below, tell me what you think.

Leather seats- 4K more, ok so what. Im not a big fan of leather to begin with but, they are heated leather seats nice option, but who is going to be driving this car in the winter? They were better off not having heated seats in the base option but maybe making it another option. If this is the case they probably could have cut their option price in half, and sold more.

Convience package- You get the rear view mirror, and heated side mirriors. Again stupid option when am I going to be needed heated mirriors, nobody is going to drive the SS at least in the rain let alone the winter. And rear view mirror being auto dimmed well for those getting tinted windows, this becomes worthless. Again stupid option to waste money on.

RS- I am getting it yes, pretty much for the badge and headlights, but beyond that what do you get for 1200 bucks??

21in rims- Now I cant figure this one out, are they the black rims? But either way my car comes with 20" why would I pay 4k more for a inch bigger tire, i dont see a lot of people buying these. Now I can see if they went for another 500 or something, another thing is good luck finding a tire for a 21inch rim.

Now dont get me wrong I think some of the options are cool like the stripes and hood and they are descent priced. But I imagine some people will get some of the option above just to get them and without much thought, which i guess each to his own. But when a lot of people buy cars they add the function with the looks. I just think GM made a poor choice on some of their options.

Why would someone not drivethis car in the rain or in the winter? This is a $30k chevy, not a $200k Ferarri. People who think that RWD cars cannot be driven in the rain and snow are simply bad drivers. It certainly takes more patience and feel to drive a high powered RWD car in bad weather but it is very far from being impossible.

fireresq157 · 05-10-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nards444

In all reality specially for people in the north this car isnt a everyday driver, thus all of these options are unessary and wont be used half of the time. But like i said a lot of people will order all this stuff just so they can say they have it. But again to each his own, but my main point is these options just dont make sense, and you would have to agree you can find one where you can say that is stupif.

I plan on using most if not all the features and I don't think they are "stupid".
Just because you don't have the car you want at the price your willing to pay does not make it a universal problem. God I want everyone to be happy with this car but their always be things that you can do without that you did not want to pay for. Not everyone's income and financial stability is the same for all I know your loaded and just don't like throwing money away. I personally think GM should of matched the Mustangs price across the board so their would be no price comparison argument. That would of meant an average savings of 2 thousand dollars of the current price. I can argue your point on some features that I don't need or want myself but realize the rules of the game all have already been laid out years ago for various reasons some of those I posted in my previous post. This is nothing new as far as limiting options and choices and has been going on in the car world for over 30 years. Try to enjoy your options and choices I know I will. PS about 2 years ago GM had a survey for the Camaro loyalists and fans and they dealt with all the options and choices . Thousands voted on it so what you have with the current Camaro is essentially the peoples choice on what they wanted to see and what they would pay for.

Chief00 · 05-10-2009, 03:10 PM

nards444 · 05-10-2009, 03:11 PM

i can agree with driving a camaro in the rain i will. Im talking the the SS and i guess the LT now in the SNOW. Im sorry if you can do it your are the man. But you are taking your life at risk and will take 15mins to go a mile. Ive had a 86 Trans am which i drove in the snow, didnt work well and that only had a 305 never did it again. Now I have a 2000 WS6 Trans Am, havent driven in snow, but have in rain and I dont see how it could be effective in snow. So unless your puting on skinnier wheels and adding weight that SS is going nowhere. And its not so much me my self would be scared its just not really plausible to drive a sports car in a foot of snow. Now maybe you live somewhere where you get some flurries, but thats not snow. Snow is multiple inches at one time.

prostreet67 · 05-10-2009, 03:14 PM

some of us old guys with stiff joints enjoy heated seats even in summer time. the body grows old but the love for the camaro never does.

hiway61revisted · 05-10-2009, 03:26 PM

It makes perfect sense from GM's point of view !! and mine too so I purchased a 2SS

fireresq157 · 05-10-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nards444

i can agree with driving a camaro in the rain i will. Im talking the the SS and i guess the LT now in the SNOW. Im sorry if you can do it your are the man. But you are taking your life at risk and will take 15mins to go a mile. Ive had a 86 Trans am which i drove in the snow, didnt work well and that only had a 305 never did it again. Now I have a 2000 WS6 Trans Am, havent driven in snow, but have in rain and I dont see how it could be effective in snow. So unless your puting on skinnier wheels and adding weight that SS is going nowhere. And its not so much me my self would be scared its just not really plausible to drive a sports car in a foot of snow. Now maybe you live somewhere where you get some flurries, but thats not snow. Snow is multiple inches at one time.

You are right there, personally all cars driven on snow and ice can potentially be down right scary. If I had to drive in those conditions I would like a pickup truck or SUV with AWD and snow tires. If your in mountainous region it's even worse but the road conditions vary from state to state. So what makes no sense to me may make sense to you and vice versa. I can see why you would have a hard time justifying the price for a car that you will only drive part of the year but again your circumstances are not everyone else's. It would suck getting winter tires for the Camaro I can tell you that. especially since they come with summer tires only. Anyhow my advice to you other than be happy with what you get is; if you can aford it go with the top of the line, you'll never have to sit there and say what if. BTW theirs always aftermarket and ebay.

fireresq157 · 05-10-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by prostreet67

some of us old guys with stiff joints enjoy heated seats even in summer time. the body grows old but the love for the camaro never does.

Im not that old but with 2 herniated disk it may be very nice especially in the mornings.

aberg · 05-10-2009, 03:41 PM

I think having the V8 is a waste unless you are going to the track. That's why I ordered the 2LT RS. I like all of the options, the only exception would be the XM. I would rather have Sirius but even the XM is nice. I drove the LT and it had plenty of get-up-n-go. When you look at it is as quick as most older muscle cars. To each their own.

05-10-2009, 03:14 PM	#24
prostreet67 Drives: 67 prostreet Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon Tn. Posts: 285	some of us old guys with stiff joints enjoy heated seats even in summer time. the body grows old but the love for the camaro never does. __________________ 2LT/RS-RJT, auto, sunroof, polished wheels, spare. order placed 3/13 3000 5/27 brought home 7/30

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05-10-2009, 02:55 PM	#15
DkknightX Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Chevrolet Cobalt SS/SC Stage 2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Emerson, NJ Posts: 1,347 View My Garage	"21in rims- Now I cant figure this one out, are they the black rims? But either way my car comes with 20" why would I pay 4k more for a inch bigger tire, i dont see a lot of people buying these. Now I can see if they went for another 500 or something, another thing is good luck finding a tire for a 21inch rim." I think that was the whole point. So that if you needed tires or rims, you'd have to go through GM so they can have their way with you.

05-10-2009, 02:55 PM	#16
nards444 Drives: 1SS/RS Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: New york Posts: 2,123 View My Garage	You all bring up good points, I think the consesus is that teh 21in rims are going over well. But like one of you pointed out is the grouping doesnt make sense, but again saves cost. Also they are having options out there that are already on the car. For instance you get a SS then the RS package, well the SS has the painted rims and spoiler, granted they adjusted the price. Like My self I would get leather seats but dont want the heating element which probably drives the seats up double. And the Mirror crap dont want it and will be useless but the steering wheel controls will be cool. So I i just dont think GM did the best job possible on grouping and price. Some options are nice and are good priced. Instead of all of the nickle and dime inter ops i would have like to see some more performance options. exahust, super charger, etc. I mean a muscle car is about power not about all these girlie interior options.

05-10-2009, 02:56 PM	#17
Chief00 Drives: 2010 2LT/RS CGM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royersford, Pa Posts: 46	Myself this will be my daily driver. I can't afford to spend money on this car for driving only 8 months a year. Idealy I would agree with some of the points made. But not everyone is in the same situation as you that won't make use of the heated options.

05-10-2009, 02:59 PM	#19
Chief00 Drives: 2010 2LT/RS CGM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royersford, Pa Posts: 46	If only it DIDN't snow up here....

05-10-2009, 03:10 PM	#22
Chief00 Drives: 2010 2LT/RS CGM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Royersford, Pa Posts: 46

05-10-2009, 03:11 PM	#23
nards444 Drives: 1SS/RS Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: New york Posts: 2,123 View My Garage	i can agree with driving a camaro in the rain i will. Im talking the the SS and i guess the LT now in the SNOW. Im sorry if you can do it your are the man. But you are taking your life at risk and will take 15mins to go a mile. Ive had a 86 Trans am which i drove in the snow, didnt work well and that only had a 305 never did it again. Now I have a 2000 WS6 Trans Am, havent driven in snow, but have in rain and I dont see how it could be effective in snow. So unless your puting on skinnier wheels and adding weight that SS is going nowhere. And its not so much me my self would be scared its just not really plausible to drive a sports car in a foot of snow. Now maybe you live somewhere where you get some flurries, but thats not snow. Snow is multiple inches at one time.

05-10-2009, 03:26 PM	#25
hiway61revisted Drives: 2010 Camaro & 2000 Silverado Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tulsa Posts: 194	It makes perfect sense from GM's point of view !! and mine too so I purchased a 2SS

05-10-2009, 03:41 PM	#28
aberg Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NY Posts: 206	I think having the V8 is a waste unless you are going to the track. That's why I ordered the 2LT RS. I like all of the options, the only exception would be the XM. I would rather have Sirius but even the XM is nice. I drove the LT and it had plenty of get-up-n-go. When you look at it is as quick as most older muscle cars. To each their own.