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Kevlar382 · 03-09-2013, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

The changes they made in 74 were not for improving the looks or even for updating the looks of the cars, it was the DAMN Government mandated 5 mph bumpers they had to integrate into the existing cars. Many cars from that year had those ugly bumpers hanging off the ends of the cars... Not just GM but everyone..
BTW: my first Camaro was a 74.

So what. My point is change isn't always an improvement.
I don't see what the big deal is, if people don't like the 2014 go to your dealer and have them find the 2013 you want.

Kevlar382 · 03-09-2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

I would so wait for a 1LE with a 427...

WTF am I supposed to do? The 1LE will be here in a week or two... I hope it times out that I get to see what is coming before I sign on the dotted line. damn, Damn, DAMN!

What's the big deal? Tell your dealer you want to wait to see the 2014. If you think it's worth the wait order one, if not by the 2013.

Angrybird 12 · 03-09-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar382

So what. My point is change isn't always an improvement.
I don't see what the big deal is, if people don't like the 2014 go to your dealer and have them find the 2013 you want.

My point is change you tried to point out wasn't done to improve on the design or from input from previous owners. It was done out of necessity to meet government regulations. I feel in 78 on the same platform they did a much better job integrating the bumpers in going to the plastic covers, mostly due to customer concerns that the big bumpers were ugly. I think of the 74-77 models as just a stopgap attempt to quickly meet government mandated regulations.

ChevyCam · 03-09-2013, 08:09 AM

Too bad i can't visit this show this year, especially when they releasing a new Camaro out there...

awh3r · 03-09-2013, 08:32 AM

The renderings have the cowl hood removed which kills it for me. The cowl hood is one of the major characteristic of the camaro and should never be removed.

*007 · 03-09-2013, 09:56 AM

No one shall be disappointed. The final Gen 5 will astound.
Look for Ls7. Cold air intake scoop. Hood pins. Track managed ---- Cool running. PERFORMANCE enhanced. Give the ZL1 a run for the money.

Kevlar382 · 03-09-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

My point is change you tried to point out wasn't done to improve on the design or from input from previous owners. It was done out of necessity to meet government regulations. I feel in 78 on the same platform they did a much better job integrating the bumpers in going to the plastic covers, mostly due to customer concerns that the big bumpers were ugly. I think of the 74-77 models as just a stopgap attempt to quickly meet government mandated regulations.

Did you like the stripes? did the goverment make them do that too

DrSkull · 03-09-2013, 10:14 AM

the slight refresh that Ford did on the 2013 Mustang was perfect , I love the new taillights and some other added features , I can't wait to finally buy a Camaro later this year

Kevlar382 · 03-09-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

My point is change you tried to point out wasn't done to improve on the design or from input from previous owners. It was done out of necessity to meet government regulations. I feel in 78 on the same platform they did a much better job integrating the bumpers in going to the plastic covers, mostly due to customer concerns that the big bumpers were ugly. I think of the 74-77 models as just a stopgap attempt to quickly meet government mandated regulations.

My point is that I don't care if they had to do it or not. I'm just saying that some people might not like what they do and some might.
I don't understand why some people are making such a big deal out of getting a 2013 or wait for the 2014. In two weeks we will know what the changes are and they will still be able to get a 2013 if they don't like next years.

FenwickHockey65 · 03-09-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

I feel like a "refresh" with only 2 years before the 6th gen comes out would be a waste of time and money on GM's part... I honestly didn't even think they were going to do anything like that before the 6th gen was released. Perhaps this is their way of buying some more time and the 6th gen will be pushed back?

Not really. GM did a mild refresh on Silverado with two model years left for the GMT-900s. Same with Impala. It's standard practice.

SROD · 03-09-2013, 10:26 AM

nice.

DrkPhx · 03-09-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

I feel like a "refresh" with only 2 years before the 6th gen comes out would be a waste of time and money on GM's part... I honestly didn't even think they were going to do anything like that before the 6th gen was released. Perhaps this is their way of buying some more time and the 6th gen will be pushed back?

That's exactly my thoughts.

Look at it from a sales/marketing timeline point of view.

- The C7 is center of attention this and next year.
- The new Mustang will certainly have the spotlight the following year.
- That leaves the Camaro somewhat in the shadows. A 2016 debut for the 6th gen would be too close the new Mustang and affect sales. That would set the stage for a debut in 2017 which is the 50th anniversary of the Camaro. That along with the Made in USA (again) tag would make a great marketing campaign to build momentum for the next gen. [It would also give time for GM to work out the bugs in the new plant.]

We all know timing and momemtun is everything when it comes to generating sales for a new model; especially for an iconic car like the Camaro. Only time will tell; but this will interesting either way.

TJ91 · 03-09-2013, 11:01 AM

Hmm wonder what the cosmetic changes will be
Hope they don't make RS headlights standard
Have a feeling tail lights will have some sort of after burner affect
Wonder if the bumpers or front fascia will be changed
I'm hoping not

jackka · 03-09-2013, 11:49 AM

My money is on a turbocharged V6 model.
and relatively little cosmetic changes.

The news post says 'performance improvement'. It would make sense for GM to not change much to the exterior of the Camaro. It has won numerous awards since its introduction and continues to allow the Camaro to beat out Mustang sales to this day despite inferior performance(non-1LE, non-ZL1 of course).

And a V6 turbo has been a long time coming with all the great improvements in turbo technology. Great power on the lesser displacement without sacrificing efficiency is what appeals to the modern world and it makes sense for GM to deliver on that appeal.

03-09-2013, 08:32 AM	#411
awh3r Drives: 2018 Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 67	Rendering The renderings have the cowl hood removed which kills it for me. The cowl hood is one of the major characteristic of the camaro and should never be removed.

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*007 Drives: Getaway Special Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Globe Trotter - CIU Posts: 398	No one shall be disappointed. The final Gen 5 will astound. Look for Ls7. Cold air intake scoop. Hood pins. Track managed ---- Cool running. PERFORMANCE enhanced. Give the ZL1 a run for the money. Last edited by 007; 03-09-2013 at 08:33 PM.*

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TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	Hmm wonder what the cosmetic changes will be Hope they don't make RS headlights standard Have a feeling tail lights will have some sort of after burner affect Wonder if the bumpers or front fascia will be changed I'm hoping not __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

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ChevyCam Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 2	Too bad i can't visit this show this year, especially when they releasing a new Camaro out there...

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DrSkull Drives: 13 Challenger RT & 89 GTA TA Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: east PA. Posts: 177	the slight refresh that Ford did on the 2013 Mustang was perfect , I love the new taillights and some other added features , I can't wait to finally buy a Camaro later this year

03-09-2013, 11:49 AM	#420
jackka Drives: 2011 Black/Black 2LT/RS M6 w/Sroof Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FT. Rucker, Alabama, the home of Army Aviation! Posts: 200	My money is on a turbocharged V6 model. and relatively little cosmetic changes. The news post says 'performance improvement'. It would make sense for GM to not change much to the exterior of the Camaro. It has won numerous awards since its introduction and continues to allow the Camaro to beat out Mustang sales to this day despite inferior performance(non-1LE, non-ZL1 of course). And a V6 turbo has been a long time coming with all the great improvements in turbo technology. Great power on the lesser displacement without sacrificing efficiency is what appeals to the modern world and it makes sense for GM to deliver on that appeal.