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Bat Maro · 11-08-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LSA376

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDZ_cIHSJo

So earlier this year I raced my brother in law's STI with my SS, watch the video. We raced 4 to 5 times and he never came close. Here's the deal, the STI with those mods is a low 13 second car. My SS was setup similar to yours and was running street tires. His best run is 13.4, I've seen a few in the high 12.90's however they have extensive mods. As far as getting smoked out of the hole, it's all about driver....

nice, walked him!

Bat Maro · 11-08-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Denis

for sure

i went 12.3 the other night with just bolt ons and 20" drag radials...no stall.

thats sick nice times

trademaster · 11-08-2013, 06:58 PM

The older sedan models are the fastest ones. Also, "stage 2" is very broad. Depending on the supporting modifications a stage 2 car will make anywhere from 270awhp to 350awhp.

Bat Maro · 11-09-2013, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by trademaster

The older sedan models are the fastest ones. Also, "stage 2" is very broad. Depending on the supporting modifications a stage 2 car will make anywhere from 270awhp to 350awhp.

very true but most people agree stage 2 means intake, turbo back exhaust and a dyno tune. stage 3 is usually intake, headers, turbo back exhaust, fuel pump and injectors and a dyno. stage 2 for most sti's will put u around 320ish and stage 3 will put you near 400 especially if your on an E85 tune. E85 is the key after doing the injectors and fuel pump, that is a huge gain for subaru guys (or any forced inductions imports for the most part).

joey0480 · 11-14-2013, 09:31 AM

My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
Upper and lower intercooler piping
electronic boost controller
bigger front mount
recirculating downpipe
hi-flow cat or test pipe
catback
dyno tune

nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few).

With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.

Bad70supreme · 11-14-2013, 10:02 AM

STI, every time I see one run there lucky to get into the 12s but everyone talks how fast they are. The ones I have raced are strong on the low end, but really fall short on any kind of speed and end up being cars behind. Although I did see one running 12.30s over the summer, he must have been very modded.

08-G35s/6MT · 11-14-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by joey0480

My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
Upper and lower intercooler piping
electronic boost controller
bigger front mount
recirculating downpipe
hi-flow cat or test pipe
catback
dyno tune

nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few).

With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.

That's bs. My friend's 2011 wrx, with the bigger oem turbo than older sti's, did 287 awhp on 91 octane.... 301 awhp on 93 octane with those very mods. He switched to e85 and did 341 awhp.

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-14-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joey0480

My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows:
intake
Upper and lower intercooler piping
electronic boost controller
bigger front mount
recirculating downpipe
hi-flow cat or test pipe
catback
dyno tune

nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few).

With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60.

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Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

That's bs. My friend's 2011 wrx, with the bigger oem turbo than older sti's, did 287 awhp on 91 octane.... 301 awhp on 93 octane with those very mods. He switched to e85 and did 341 awhp.

Apples and oranges.

08-G35s/6MT · 11-15-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Apples and oranges.

The new WRX and STi have the same engine and turbo?

trademaster · 11-15-2013, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

The new WRX and sti have the same engine and turbo

May I recommend,

trademaster · 11-15-2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

STI, every time I see one run there lucky to get into the 12s but everyone talks how fast they are. The ones I have raced are strong on the low end, but really fall short on any kind of speed and end up being cars behind. Although I did see one running 12.30s over the summer, he must have been very modded.

He probably had meth or e85. They don't have forged pistons and the boxer design runs very hot so they have to be tuned conservatively to be safe and these knock resistant fuels help a lot. The e85 cars are way faster than the 91/93 cars in general. Typical stage 2 cars on pump gas make around 300awhp/315awtq give or take 15 or so and with e85 or meth they will generally pick up 30-40awhp and a bit more than that in torque. One of the guys I track with makes over 400awtq with e85 and that thing corner-exits like a damn rocket, but falls off hard after 100mph. They have a very large gearing change from 4th to 5th which really hurts their acceleration.

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-15-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by trademaster

May I recommend,

legacy · 11-15-2013, 10:33 AM

what about spray?

joey0480 · 11-16-2013, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Apples and oranges.

Correct. And I am referring to evos and not a wrx/sti. 150whp is easily gained from the mods I have listed.

11-14-2013, 09:31 AM	#33
joey0480 Drives: 2013 Evo X Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 562	My shop considers a "full" stage 2 for my evo as follows: intake Upper and lower intercooler piping electronic boost controller bigger front mount recirculating downpipe hi-flow cat or test pipe catback dyno tune nets around 375 awhp (plus or minus a few). With those mods he has, I think you got him, especially if he can't launch well. You still will have to play catchup from a dig but you should have him after 60. __________________ 2013 Evo X GSR (SSS, leather, exterior package)....stage 2 bro SOLD:Team L99 ADM Race Intake and Scoop Vmax Ported TB Borla-S axlebacks ARH 1 7/8 Long Tubes and Hi Flo Cats 160 Thermostat Pfdat front and rear sways and endlinks Gold Pearl Powdercoated calipers Gloss black CFD strut covers GM gill stripes ******** 12" Stealth Kicker Package Last edited by joey0480; 11-14-2013 at 10:09 AM.

11-14-2013, 10:02 AM	#34
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	STI, every time I see one run there lucky to get into the 12s but everyone talks how fast they are. The ones I have raced are strong on the low end, but really fall short on any kind of speed and end up being cars behind. Although I did see one running 12.30s over the summer, he must have been very modded. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

11-15-2013, 10:33 AM	#41
legacy Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY Posts: 98	what about spray? __________________ 2013 L99 bolt ons, tune

11-08-2013, 06:58 PM	#31
trademaster Drives: 12 MP4-12C, 16 Quattroporte Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Working Posts: 707	The older sedan models are the fastest ones. Also, "stage 2" is very broad. Depending on the supporting modifications a stage 2 car will make anywhere from 270awhp to 350awhp.