2014 Camaro Z/28 pricing announced at $75,000

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

So what happens with all the parts currently on the 1le? Does gm give you the parts cause they arnt giving you the money?

1LE parts, in many cases, are NOT of a standard deemed adequate for the Z/28...

200+ new parts. 1 is the engine. Go back and see if you can discern the rest...

And how many versions of those 200+ parts did the Team look at/try out/discard/reorder/re-spec/reorder/retry...

Simple, right?!

Remember, "good enough" for THIS car probably ISN'T...

The fact that YOU chose a 1LE puts you, now, ahead of the curve. A lot of folks, waiting for the Z/28 price to be announced, are likely now to scurry down to Hometown Chevy and order up exactly what you now enjoy.

[Novie LE]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

1LE parts, in many cases, are NOT of a standard deemed adequate for the Z/28...

200+ new parts. 1 is the engine. Go back and see if you can discern the rest...

And how many versions of those 200+ parts did the Team look at/try out/discard/reorder/re-spec/reorder/retry...

Simple, right?!

Remember, "good enough" for THIS car probably ISN'T...

Read next time. I said I don't care about the z28. I care about switching the ls3 for a ls7. I want to know how that costs 30 plus k. Ironic for a person that is so helpful.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read next time. I said I don't care about the z28. I care about switching the ls3 for a ls7. I want to know how that costs 30 plus k. Ironic for a person that is so helpful.

If you don't care about the Z/28 and only want to know how much it would cost to put a LS7 in a 1LE then this is the wrong thread to be discussing it in. Please start a thread in the 1LE section.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read next time. I said I don't care about the z28. I care about switching the ls3 for a ls7. I want to know how that costs 30 plus k. Ironic for a person that is so helpful.

Then start a thread about it. Lots of folks have done it and could probably help you do it for less money.

You're trying to lump this one part into a compete re-tool of the Camaro.

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

Read next time. I said I don't care about the z28. I care about switching the ls3 for a ls7. I want to know how that costs 30 plus k. Ironic for a person that is so helpful.

The man said that putting an LS7 in a 1LE (and ALL the work behind the scenes to prepare that car for production) takes your roughly-$40K 1LE and makes it a $60K car...which is $20Gs, NOT your incessant $30G figure.

READ. COMPREHEND. THEN type...

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...OR...better yet...

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

If you don't care about the Z/28 and only want to know how much it would cost to put a LS7 in a 1LE then this is the wrong thread to be discussing it in. Please start a thread in the 1LE section.

Originally Posted by mlee

Then start a thread about it. Lots of folks have done it and could probably help you do it for less money.

You're trying to lump this one part into a compete re-tool of the Camaro.

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BTW, ask Summit how much more for AAAAAALLLLL the dry-sump bits 'n pieces, the LS7-specific exhaust manifolds and a few dozen other necessary tidbits...

Pretty damn close to $20K, and then add labor 'n such...

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Thank you for a voice of reason.

The post above was where I stopped reading in this thread - not because I don't want to but because I don't have the time right now and a few people make me want to throw myself in front of a speeding truck.

I really really really really really really wish some of the naysayers on this thread that are indeed prospective buyers for the new Z/28 (and I say that because I suspect most are not....) could see what Al and company went thru to get the Z/28 sold to the company. You haven't a clue.

Next I wish people could see the REAL interworkings of automotive development and WHAT THE REAL COSTS ARE (hint: it's not the hardware, rather it's the software and development costs......)

No one on this site has seen what this car can really do (although we did take a moderator or two or three around the Milford Road Course in Z/28s - and the videos are out there....let that be a guide perhaps?) -- and yet we have people pooh-poohing the car.

It makes me wonder why we even bother at times - and then I wake up and realize that most people are simply in love with this car - whether or not they can afford it......and it's THOSE people who inspire us.

So - for those of you who think the car is overpriced -- so be it. We cannot lose money on the car and we aren't making a ton of money on it - it's a HALO car.

Lastly CAFE does affect how many cars and trucks we can build with performance V8s -- get used to it or vote your elected officials out of office.

Now - I'm going downstairs to complete more paperwork for Monday morning (that assumes I don't freeze to death first! )

I'm looking forward to the trickle-down effect throughout the Camaro line up. Thanks again!

[mlee]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

BTW, ask Summit how much more for AAAAAALLLLL the dry-sump bits 'n pieces, the LS7-specific exhaust manifolds and a few dozen other necessary tidbits...

Pretty damn close to $20K, and then add labor 'n such...

Stop it... before GM changes it to the 85K that I thought it would be.

You're going to find something they overlooked...

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

The 1979 Malibu that I bought new and which remained in daily driver service until well into the 2000's was ordered as v8/4-barrel, 4MT, sport suspension, bucket seats, no A/C, no radio, HD radiator, HD alternator and virtually nothing else (I actually begrudged the notion of having to get the "Classic" trim in order to get one of the things I did want, most likely the seats). You could say I already have put my money where my keyboard is today, and I'd do it again for my next car if whatever that turns out to be comes in at a reasonable price point (with A/C this time).

Norm

Norm, you're taking me back to the days of my special-ordered '78 Nova with 9C1-Police Package chassis and LM1-350. Hot tamale', in its day...and a match for most anything else on the streets, fresh from the showroom floor...

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Originally Posted by mlee

Stop it... before GM changes it to the 85K that I thought it would be.

You're going to find something they overlooked...

...and ask Summit for the no-charge 5/100 warranty while they're on the phone...

[Chief8404]

Pretty sure some will be on the showroom floor. Just not where i live.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Novie LE

I don't care about the z28. I care about sticking a ls7 in a 1le and the price of doing that.

Then start a new thread regarding that in the 1LE forum.

[Novie LE]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

The man said that putting an LS7 in a 1LE (and ALL the work behind the scenes to prepare that car for production) takes your roughly-$40K 1LE and makes it a $60K car...which is $20Gs, NOT your incessant $30G figure.

READ. COMPREHEND. THEN type...

Read again. So my 40k 1le still has a power plant in it? Or does the power plant get removed with zero money taken off. A little common sense and basic math goes a long way.