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Ryan87mets · 01-14-2014, 11:04 AM

so i got my winter tires in october put on by my cousins friend who owns a tire shop, well today i discovered the front 2 tires are on backwards, the tread is going in the opposite way. and it even says on the tire rotation with an arrow what way it is pointing! how does a place mess that up? well im getting it fixed thursday morning and im wondering from october to know what bad things could happened to the tires or my car between that time of them being backwards?

Dexman1349 · 01-14-2014, 11:42 AM

Just swap them left-right. You won't have to remove them from the rims, just jack up the front of the car and put your right-front wheel/tire on the left front and vice-versa. You'll have to get the TPMS corrected (it will only be backwards, they will still work just fine), but most shops offer a free air-pressure check which covers this...

The only "issues" you would have seen would possibly been a reduction in traction and possibly some premature wear, but they shouldn't be severe.

Angrybird 12 · 01-14-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexman1349

Just swap them left-right. You won't have to remove them from the rims, just jack up the front of the car and put your right-front wheel/tire on the left front and vice-versa. You'll have to get the TPMS corrected (it will only be backwards, they will still work just fine), but most shops offer a free air-pressure check which covers this...

The only "issues" you would have seen would possibly been a reduction in traction and possibly some premature wear, but they shouldn't be severe.

what he said.....

Norm Peterson · 01-14-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan87mets

so i got my winter tires in october put on by my cousins friend who owns a tire shop, well today i discovered the front 2 tires are on backwards, the tread is going in the opposite way. and it even says on the tire rotation with an arrow what way it is pointing! how does a place mess that up? well im getting it fixed thursday morning and im wondering from october to know what bad things could happened to the tires or my car between that time of them being backwards?

Let's back up a sec . . .

Exactly what tire make/model are they? The reason I'm asking is because if the tires are also asymmetric you may not be able to just swap them side to side. Such tires should indicate which side is the outside. Chances are that this isn't the case here, but it won't hurt to check.

Norm

Angrybird 12 · 01-14-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Let's back up a sec . . .

Exactly what tire make/model are they? The reason I'm asking is because if the tires are also asymmetric you may not be able to just swap them side to side. Such tires should indicate which side is the outside. Chances are that this isn't the case here, but it won't hurt to check.

Norm

Do they make asymmetrical+directional winter tires?

Dexman1349 · 01-14-2014, 02:30 PM

If they are asymmetrical, they would also indicate "inside" or "outside" next to the rotation directional arrow. I assumed that because the OP didn't mention that tidbit that they were only directional.

punkindave · 01-14-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Do they make asymmetrical+directional winter tires?

The Pirelli Scorpions are directional.

Ryan87mets · 01-14-2014, 05:42 PM

i have goodyear eagle ultra grips im pretty sure they are only directional

Angrybird 12 · 01-14-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan87mets

i have goodyear eagle ultra grips im pretty sure they are only directional

Directional for sure and they don't look asymetrical.

Rudy@Tirerack · 01-14-2014, 06:25 PM

Directional tires will need to be take off the car and remounted the correct way. If If they are Asymetric they can not be run backwards they have an outside and inside only. Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow are Asymetrical and Scorpion Winter are directional. If the tire has an arrow then they are directional.

Angrybird 12 · 01-14-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy@Tirerack

Directional tires will need to be take off the car and remounted the correct way. If they are Asymetric they would just need to be swapped. Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow are Asymetrical and Scorpion Winter are directional. If the tire has an arrow then they are directional.

Don't you have that backwards?

Rudy@Tirerack · 01-14-2014, 06:38 PM

I don't believe so. If you have a directional tire put on backwards and you swap from side to side they are still backwards. The need to be taken off the wheel and flipped.

As a side note about Asymetric you can not run the backwards. They have a mount this sideout and you just need to make sure that the OUTSIDE side of the tire is too the outside. It does not matter what direction they are run in.

Does this clarify?

Angrybird 12 · 01-14-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy@Tirerack

I don't believe so. If you have a directional tire put on backwards and you swap from side to side they are still backwards. The need to be taken off the wheel and flipped.

As a side note about Asymetric you can not run the backwards. They have a mount this sideout and you just need to make sure that the OUTSIDE side of the tire is too the outside. It does not matter what direction they are run in.

Does this clarify?

The way you said it though is incorrect, on a directional tire if you swap sides it will rotate in the opposite direction, the left sides rotate counter clockwise, the right sides rotate Clockwise. On a asymetrical tire if the outside tread faces the inside of the rim it will always face the inside unless you dismount it and flip it to the outside.. If they were mounted correctly they wouldn't need to be swapped unless they were also directional.

Rudy@Tirerack · 01-14-2014, 06:53 PM

Yup, I have it phrased incorrectly. Ultimately the tires had an arrow per his post. So they are directional and need to be remounted. I appreciate you pointing it out. Its been a long day.

01-14-2014, 11:04 AM	#1
Ryan87mets Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 303	Just found out my 2 front winter tires were put on wrong... so i got my winter tires in october put on by my cousins friend who owns a tire shop, well today i discovered the front 2 tires are on backwards, the tread is going in the opposite way. and it even says on the tire rotation with an arrow what way it is pointing! how does a place mess that up? well im getting it fixed thursday morning and im wondering from october to know what bad things could happened to the tires or my car between that time of them being backwards?

01-14-2014, 11:42 AM	#2
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	Just swap them left-right. You won't have to remove them from the rims, just jack up the front of the car and put your right-front wheel/tire on the left front and vice-versa. You'll have to get the TPMS corrected (it will only be backwards, they will still work just fine), but most shops offer a free air-pressure check which covers this... The only "issues" you would have seen would possibly been a reduction in traction and possibly some premature wear, but they shouldn't be severe. __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

01-14-2014, 02:30 PM	#6
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	If they are asymmetrical, they would also indicate "inside" or "outside" next to the rotation directional arrow. I assumed that because the OP didn't mention that tidbit that they were only directional. __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

01-14-2014, 06:25 PM	#10
Rudy@Tirerack Drives: 1-800-428-8355 X4664 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rudy@tirerack.com Posts: 1,186	Directional tires will need to be take off the car and remounted the correct way. If If they are Asymetric they can not be run backwards they have an outside and inside only. Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow are Asymetrical and Scorpion Winter are directional. If the tire has an arrow then they are directional. Last edited by Rudy@Tirerack; 01-14-2014 at 06:38 PM.

01-14-2014, 05:42 PM	#8
Ryan87mets Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE M6 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 303	i have goodyear eagle ultra grips im pretty sure they are only directional

01-14-2014, 06:38 PM	#12
Rudy@Tirerack Drives: 1-800-428-8355 X4664 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rudy@tirerack.com Posts: 1,186	I don't believe so. If you have a directional tire put on backwards and you swap from side to side they are still backwards. The need to be taken off the wheel and flipped. As a side note about Asymetric you can not run the backwards. They have a mount this sideout and you just need to make sure that the OUTSIDE side of the tire is too the outside. It does not matter what direction they are run in. Does this clarify?

01-14-2014, 06:53 PM	#14
Rudy@Tirerack Drives: 1-800-428-8355 X4664 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: rudy@tirerack.com Posts: 1,186	Yup, I have it phrased incorrectly. Ultimately the tires had an arrow per his post. So they are directional and need to be remounted. I appreciate you pointing it out. Its been a long day.