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X25 · 06-28-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

You need a custom cam from someone who knows that they're doing. Every spec will be different for a road race cam, especially lobe choice and max lift.

It's really hard to trust someone on that. I wish there were a company that used its cams for endurance races.

Synner · 06-28-2014, 03:13 PM

Call Brian tooley he has been making them for decades. Mine is great.

*Milk 1027* · 06-28-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

You totally missed the point. Of course there are cosmetic differences in the car.

The ZL1 has a supercharged engine so a different cam is required. The 1LE has exactly the same engine as every other manual SS on this site. As I mentioned maybe rear end gears makes a difference in cam selection, but I certainly don't see that being discussed here nor do I feel it makes much of a difference.

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Originally Posted by mlee

I was kind of digging for someone to go down the rear end gear road. I think there would be some consideration to low end torque vs. high end based on gears. Just not sure if it's enough to stray from the tride, true and tested LS3 cams already out there.

I think it warrants discussion based solely on what the 1LE is used for (road track/autocross) vs. a stock SS. I personally want a cam that is going to give me power/torque in the mid to high RPM ranges which is where my car is usually at when running the autocross.

*mlee* · 06-28-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I think it warrants discussion based solely on what the 1LE is used for (road track/autocross) vs. a stock SS. I personally want a cam that is going to give me power/torque in the mid to high RPM ranges which is where my car is usually at when running the autocross.

An SS runs AutoX too. I too agree this warrants discussion based on how you want to drive your car no matter what model it is. LS3 is an LS3 and there are lots of cam profiles out there for it.

KY1LE · 06-28-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

A rather invalid argument considering your trans gearing gives you less rpms in lower gears than an SS, not more.

No where did I say the 1LE specifically in my comment. More RPM equals less bucking, period.

*mlee* · 06-28-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KY1LE

No where did I say the 1LE specifically in my comment. More RPM equals less bucking, period.

It's sort of implied we are talking about a 1LE in a 1LE thread. No one drives their car at low rpm on the track so I don't see where bucking is an issue here. Not quite following you with that one.

Camaro Dude · 06-28-2014, 05:17 PM

Let's not all forget here, from what I gather from the OP's wording, he, like me, are freaks and we will not settle for this SS vs 1LE juvenile arguments, and the it's all the same shit argument, and most cams for this application are ABOUT the same arguments.

He wants his cam to be PERFECT based on what he has described as his driving style and application.

Let's move this discussion up a notch and away from the other zillion threads on this forum.

I for one, will call this builder who was asking me about rear end diff ratio, and I will mention to him the tranny ratios too, as this seems to be the issue of argument from the SS crowd whenever 1LE rear diff ratio is dared even mentioned.

Camaro Dude · 06-28-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by X25

It's really hard to trust someone on that. I wish there were a company that used its cams for endurance races.

Alas, that is where my issue lies as well.

*Milk 1027* · 06-28-2014, 05:29 PM

A good builder will take EVERYTHING about a car and its use into consideration when building a custom cam. A cam is always a good mod that adds extra power to any engine, however it's always going to leave some risks due to extra strain on the valvetrain. I think if someone is serious about adding a cam to any car they need to go with a proven builder that will custom make one to fit your needs and supporting mods.

GONIF · 06-28-2014, 05:30 PM

Exactly ,it's nice that someone gets what the post is about .

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

Let's not all forget here, from what I gather from the OP's wording, he, like me, are freaks and we will not settle for this SS vs 1LE juvenile arguments, and the it's all the same shit argument, and most cams for this application are ABOUT the same arguments.

He wants his cam to be PERFECT based on what he has described as his driving style and application.

Let's move this discussion up a notch and away from the other zillion threads on this forum.

I for one, will call this builder who was asking me about rear end diff ratio, and I will mention to him the tranny ratios too, as this seems to be the issue of argument from the SS crowd whenever 1LE rear diff ratio is dared even mentioned.

*Milk 1027* · 06-28-2014, 05:41 PM

I would look at Katech if I were you guys. They were involved in the C5-R program.

CrystalRedTintcoat · 06-28-2014, 05:49 PM

If you're looking for track improvement we know HP isn't the end all be all. Just look at what Chevy did with the Z/28 by improving handling vs HP compared to other cars in its class. And look at momentum cars. They can put down good times without the HP.

Now, for me , I love the 1LE gears but feel some pull is missing especially in 3rd. I want a cam that will let me keep up with higher HP cars between the turns.

I know people say here that custom cams are the way to go but I'm still hell bent at considering the Chevy Performance Dynamic Duo (see performance parts on Chevy.com) and, frankly though everyone pans it saying, "it's crap try Connor Custom Cams", but nobody ever shares objective evidence as to what's wrong about it or why Tom, Dick or Harry's cams are Better.

And, frankly, my last car was custom tuned by a custom tuning shop 30 miles away and let me tell you how much a pain in the butt it was when something went wrong. I could ONLY go to ONE shop to get my car worked on. And when it needed to be towed I had to pay extra to have it towed to the custom shop. Worse the custom shop often had a two week wait before you could get an appointment, even for repairs.

I'm leaning towards having Abel Chevrolet in NorCal put in the Dynamic Duo which have been tested by Chevy performance engineering.

*Milk 1027* · 06-28-2014, 06:01 PM

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...ft-comparison/
good read

KRich2587 · 06-28-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by X25

Would these cams be durable for heavy track use?

I told Ryne when i got it cammed it needs to be road course reliable so yes it can take the abuse of a road course the numbers on the cam aren't crazy but on track I'm killing guys with well over 500 at the wheels

06-28-2014, 05:29 PM	#37
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	A good builder will take EVERYTHING about a car and its use into consideration when building a custom cam. A cam is always a good mod that adds extra power to any engine, however it's always going to leave some risks due to extra strain on the valvetrain. I think if someone is serious about adding a cam to any car they need to go with a proven builder that will custom make one to fit your needs and supporting mods. __________________

06-28-2014, 05:41 PM	#39
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	I would look at Katech if I were you guys. They were involved in the C5-R program. __________________

06-28-2014, 05:49 PM	#40
CrystalRedTintcoat Drives: 2013 2SS 1LE NPP GBE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Bay Area, online, & in my 1LE Posts: 2,667 View My Garage	If you're looking for track improvement we know HP isn't the end all be all. Just look at what Chevy did with the Z/28 by improving handling vs HP compared to other cars in its class. And look at momentum cars. They can put down good times without the HP. Now, for me , I love the 1LE gears but feel some pull is missing especially in 3rd. I want a cam that will let me keep up with higher HP cars between the turns. I know people say here that custom cams are the way to go but I'm still hell bent at considering the Chevy Performance Dynamic Duo (see performance parts on Chevy.com) and, frankly though everyone pans it saying, "it's crap try Connor Custom Cams", but nobody ever shares objective evidence as to what's wrong about it or why Tom, Dick or Harry's cams are Better. And, frankly, my last car was custom tuned by a custom tuning shop 30 miles away and let me tell you how much a pain in the butt it was when something went wrong. I could ONLY go to ONE shop to get my car worked on. And when it needed to be towed I had to pay extra to have it towed to the custom shop. Worse the custom shop often had a two week wait before you could get an appointment, even for repairs. I'm leaning towards having Abel Chevrolet in NorCal put in the Dynamic Duo which have been tested by Chevy performance engineering. __________________ 2013 1LE NPP GBE Mods Track Days

06-28-2014, 06:01 PM	#41
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...ft-comparison/ good read __________________

06-28-2014, 03:13 PM	#30
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,542	Call Brian tooley he has been making them for decades. Mine is great.

06-28-2014, 05:17 PM	#35
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	Let's not all forget here, from what I gather from the OP's wording, he, like me, are freaks and we will not settle for this SS vs 1LE juvenile arguments, and the it's all the same shit argument, and most cams for this application are ABOUT the same arguments. He wants his cam to be PERFECT based on what he has described as his driving style and application. Let's move this discussion up a notch and away from the other zillion threads on this forum. I for one, will call this builder who was asking me about rear end diff ratio, and I will mention to him the tranny ratios too, as this seems to be the issue of argument from the SS crowd whenever 1LE rear diff ratio is dared even mentioned.