florida hwy patrol Camaro discrimination!!

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Like being up shit creek without a paddle.

[ChrisBlair]

The trouble with feeling that the Autobahn concept can just be adapted for use in the USA is that as mentioned, first the roads are different and differently maintained. Secondly, the way we earn a driver's license is different. Next, frankly the level of driving ability in the USA is somewhere between driving by braille and blissful ignorance. Lastly we are self-absorbed with doing other things like eating lunch or applying makeup, while driving. I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal at 65mph once. Another time I saw a guy holding a nice thick book up to his steering wheel while cruising along at high speed. That type of person should have no privilege to drive a car.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

The trouble with feeling that the Autobahn concept can just be adapted for use in the USA is that as mentioned, first the roads are different and differently maintained. Secondly, the way we earn a driver's license is different. Next, frankly the level of driving ability in the USA is somewhere between driving by braille and blissful ignorance. Lastly we are self-absorbed with doing other things like eating lunch or applying makeup, while driving. I saw a guy eating a bowl of cereal at 65mph once. Another time I saw a guy holding a nice thick book up to his steering wheel while cruising along at high speed. That type of person should have no privilege to drive a car.

Yes roads are totally different and yes the DL it is actually a priviledge there.

But the main point I was conveying is highlighted above. It is such a big responsibility driving a car and most people just choose to ignore that.

And I am not saying we should adopt an Autobahn concept here because it would be a death trap in the US. I am merely saying speed is NOT the #1 reason for fatalities on the roads like it is made out to be....it's everything else and the statistics for the Autobahn support this.

But it would be nice if, say on minimum 6 lane highways, there was a true fast lane.

[bandier]

Originally Posted by cornerspeed92

I love it when im driving on the frwy, and the motorcycle cops driving from the inland empire to their work in LA at 85 mph. And they have the balls to give speeding tickets,hypocrites...i hate cops.

You've noticed that too have you. Can't say I hate cops, but I do hate them thinking they are above it all.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Yes roads are totally different and yes the DL it is actually a priviledge there.

But the main point I was conveying is highlighted above. It is such a big responsibility driving a car and most people just choose to ignore that.

And I am not saying we should adopt an Autobahn concept here because it would be a death trap in the US. I am merely saying speed is NOT the #1 reason for fatalities on the roads like it is made out to be....it's everything else and the statistics for the Autobahn support this.

But it would be nice if, say on minimum 6 lane highways, there was a true fast lane.

in some states, it's against the law to be in the left "fast" lane, if you are not passing. of course, this is really hard to enforce, with so many people on the road vs cops.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

Yes roads are totally different and yes the DL it is actually a priviledge there.

But the main point I was conveying is highlighted above. It is such a big responsibility driving a car and most people just choose to ignore that.

And I am not saying we should adopt an Autobahn concept here because it would be a death trap in the US. I am merely saying speed is NOT the #1 reason for fatalities on the roads like it is made out to be....it's everything else and the statistics for the Autobahn support this.

But it would be nice if, say on minimum 6 lane highways, there was a true fast lane.

People like to misinterpret the phrase Speed Kills. It actually means the higher the speed the greater the chance in an accident that you will be killed. That is all.
The big problem I see on the interstate is nobody goes the same speed, if the speed limit is 70, you have some doing 55, and some wanting to do 90 and normal people doing 70. And that's one of the problems. People doing the speed limit and passing a line of slower cars or trucks having someone wanting to do 20 over flying up behind them and flashing their lights and blowing their horn wanting that car to speed up or pull over. I had that happen a couple days ago. The person passing has no obligation to the person speeding to do either speed up or move over until he finishes passing and moves back to the right lane.
Also if you are not passing you need to be in the right lane.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

in some states, it's against the law to be in the left "fast" lane, if you are not passing. of course, this is really hard to enforce, with so many people on the road vs cops.

It is in most states...but it's rarely ever enforced.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

People like to misinterpret the phrase Speed Kills. It actually means the higher the speed the greater the chance in an accident that you will be killed. That is all.
The big problem I see on the interstate is nobody goes the same speed, if the speed limit is 70, you have some doing 55, and some wanting to do 90 and normal people doing 70. And that's one of the problems. People doing the speed limit and passing a line of slower cars or trucks having someone wanting to do 20 over flying up behind them and flashing their lights and blowing their horn wanting that car to speed up or pull over. I had that happen a couple days ago. The person passing has no obligation to the person speeding to do either speed up or move over until he finishes passing and moves back to the right lane.
Also if you are not passing you need to be in the right lane.

And I agree totally with the first part. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. But that is not how the message is conveyed....it's conveyed to the effect of "if you break the speed limit you are going to DIE!"...

And I also agree with the statement about the gaps in between the fastest to the slowest to a certain extent. But again the gaps in Germany are much greater.....which leads me to the highlighted part above...

This type of mentality is what is a big problem here and why an Autobahn concept would never work here.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

And I agree totally with the first part. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. But that is not how the message is conveyed....it's conveyed to the effect of "if you break the speed limit you are going to DIE!"...

And I also agree with the statement about the gaps in between the fastest to the slowest to a certain extent. But again the gaps in Germany are much greater.....which leads me to the highlighted part above...

This type of mentality is what is a big problem here and why an Autobahn concept would never work here.

When you are going the speed limit and someone is wanting to break the law to go faster than the speed limit you do not have to get out of the way so they can do so. You are fully within the rights of the law to maintain your speed and complete the passing maneuver. I am not going to speed or cut someone off just because some ass wants to speed.

[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

When you are going the speed limit and someone is wanting to break the law to go faster than the speed limit you do not have to get out of the way so they can do so. You are fully within the rights of the law to maintain your speed and complete the passing maneuver. I am not going to speed or cut someone off just because some ass wants to speed.

What's your problem with the above scenario? Is it that you feel someone is breaking the law?

And can I take it from your post that you never, ever, break the speed limit?

[Mydivorcegift]

And if you are paying attention to what is going on like you should be and checking your rearview mirror for things, in your above scenario it would be easy to see someone approaching you at a high rate of speed. And the SAFEST thing if you are in the left hand lane is to get over and yield to that car.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

When you are going the speed limit and someone is wanting to break the law to go faster than the speed limit you do not have to get out of the way so they can do so. You are fully within the rights of the law to maintain your speed and complete the passing maneuver. I am not going to speed or cut someone off just because some ass wants to speed.

depends on state, and circumstances. if just a slow car, you, and one other car that wants to go really fast, then yes. but if you are impeding traffic in the left lane, no matter how fast you are going, you are supposed to move to the right, and let them pass.

Unless i'm reading the Uniform vehicle code wrong.

The most popular law follows the Uniform Vehicle Code, which says a car driving below the "normal speed of traffic" should be driven in the right-hand lane. Because it indicates "normal speed" instead of saying "speed limit" a driver going above the speed limit but slower than most traffic is still in the wrong

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift

What's your problem with the above scenario? Is it that you feel someone is breaking the law?

And can I take it from your post that you never, ever, break the speed limit?

I never said that, but I try to stay within 5 mph of the posted speed.
The way you talk you feel like you should be able to drive as fast as you want and everyone needs to get out of your way. You need to move to Germany then if you want to drive that way.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

depends on state, and circumstances. if just a slow car, you, and one other car that wants to go really fast, then yes. but if you are impeding traffic in the left lane, no matter how fast you are going, you are supposed to move to the right, and let them pass.

Unless i'm reading the Uniform vehicle code wrong.

I am pretty sure it does not include cars that are wanting to speed well above the posted limit. Besides I am sure one car wanting to go fast is not the normal flow of traffic either. And in my statement I said passing slower vehicles in the right lane. As soon as its safe to move over I do, I don't drive in the left lane unless passing..