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truth411 · 11-20-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I am basing this off the C7. GM claims 3.8s 0 to 60. Fastest bone stock C7 is 11.37s in the quarter. How does 5 hp and a couple of hundred pounds cost you more than .5 seconds 61 to about 120 mph??? Good DA and good driver should get this car in the 11s.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...fast-list.html

LOL, what? Thats got to be a one off hero run lol. or somebodys fibbing lol.

*DGthe3* · 11-20-2014, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

It's going to weigh more than a C7 Vette (probaly 200lbs) with pretty much the same HP and Less Torque. Its not going to run 11's stock, not happening.

Consistently? Absolutely no chance. But a hero run in perfect conditions? Its possible enough that I wouldn't just dismiss the idea outright.

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-20-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by truth411

LOL, what? Thats got to be a one off hero run lol. or somebodys fibbing lol.

Did you even look at the list? 7 of the top 10 are in the 11s. With time there will be more.

I am not talking magazine times. I am talking about owners that have real seat time and get good DA. Just like the SSs run mid 12s in our fast list. Are those guys fibbing?

Jason@JacFab · 11-20-2014, 11:55 PM

If this DOES end up with some new LF4 engine (with better parts), I'm gonna be pissed because I've got a couple grand worth of LF3 parts in my spare room... Should have waited, could have had better stuff...

I'm excited for this to come out though.

GM is making so much good stuff that I want, it makes me sad that I can't have all of them... Need to win the lottery...

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-21-2014, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab

If this DOES end up with some new LF4 engine (with better parts), I'm gonna be pissed because I've got a couple grand worth of LF3 parts in my spare room... Should have waited, could have had better stuff...

I'm excited for this to come out though.

GM is making so much good stuff that I want, it makes me sad that I can't have all of them... Need to win the lottery...

I would bet all the parts would fit on the LF3

Titanium Rods
Oil pan
Different Turbos
Different cooling bricks

Although the new rods are lighter than the ones you just had made, who knows if they are stronger? The oil pan would be nice if you are on the road course, but not much help at the strip. And turbos...well you will want to upgrade those at some point. Mo' Powa!!!

rayhawk · 11-21-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'm sure that under 4.0 seconds is with the 8 speed. GM wouldn't keep a better time in their pockets....as Baylor says...that's marketing material.

Doesn't shock me that this engine may be the LF4 instead of the LF3 due to the race version being called "LF4.R" . But that said, I would have no concerns whatsoever in bumping the LF3 to 450+HP and TQ...heck its not far from that anyways, and after market tunes are getting a lot more than that. I just figured they'd tweak the LF3 a bit and move on. The LF3 is a tough engine. This LF4 must be unbreakable then.

Well, for what it is worth, they list the M6 and the A8 together and show that both hit 60 in under 4 seconds. So if accurate it means M6 0-60 is 3.9 seconds and A8 0-60 is probably going to be .2 faster or so.

http://www.cadillac.com/v-series.html

Doubleblank · 11-21-2014, 10:57 AM

The more I study this car, the more I like it. Assuming GM has taken lessons learned in developing the C7, Z28 et al, I would expect this to be a great track car when loaded with all the track options. I had decided to try to get a GT350 a while back, but this car has my attention (and the 4 doors will help sell the wife on it too).

VADER SS L99 · 11-21-2014, 11:28 PM

I think it would have been better for GM and buyers if they used a LT1 instead of developing a new LF4. I think it would have been cheaper for everyone. Weight would have been a little less as well not to mention power would have been the same.

TheCaptain · 11-22-2014, 09:22 AM

I knew the ATS V was going to be sweet. Now I have to figure if I want the coupe or sedan...

macwest · 11-22-2014, 05:43 PM

with just a turbo v6 you know a cadi wont be beating a hellcat charger anytime soon.

SpeedIsLife · 11-22-2014, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by macwest

with just a turbo v6 you know a cadi wont be beating a hellcat charger anytime soon.

Totally different class of cars for a totally different purpose.

The CTS-V with the LT4...that's the Hellcat fighter.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-22-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by macwest

with just a turbo v6 you know a cadi wont be beating a hellcat charger anytime soon.

Lol @ people who think it should.

*DGthe3* · 11-22-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Totally different class of cars for a totally different purpose.

The CTS-V with the LT4...that's the Hellcat fighter.

The CTS-V will be more similar in terms of size & performance, but it still isn't really a competitor in any way, shape, or form. One is a mass market sedan, the other is a luxury car. Only a handful of people would ever cross-shop the two.

SEVEN-OH JOE · 11-22-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Totally different class of cars for a totally different purpose.

The CTS-V with the LT4...that's the Hellcat fighter.

Then who will the LT4-engined Gen-6 Camaro compete with, when it dawns?

11-21-2014, 10:57 AM	#77
Doubleblank Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2014 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 414	The more I study this car, the more I like it. Assuming GM has taken lessons learned in developing the C7, Z28 et al, I would expect this to be a great track car when loaded with all the track options. I had decided to try to get a GT350 a while back, but this car has my attention (and the 4 doors will help sell the wife on it too). __________________ ERL 500 ci Short Block, 2in ARH Headers, TSP LS7 Heads, LSXR/NW 102, Forgeline, MGW Shifter, StopTech BBK, Pfadt C/O's, Pfadt ASB's, etc, PowerFab Dynotune

11-21-2014, 11:28 PM	#78
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I think it would have been better for GM and buyers if they used a LT1 instead of developing a new LF4. I think it would have been cheaper for everyone. Weight would have been a little less as well not to mention power would have been the same. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

11-22-2014, 09:22 AM	#79
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,732 View My Garage	I knew the ATS V was going to be sweet. Now I have to figure if I want the coupe or sedan... __________________

11-22-2014, 05:43 PM	#80
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	with just a turbo v6 you know a cadi wont be beating a hellcat charger anytime soon. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

11-20-2014, 11:55 PM	#74
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,685 View My Garage	If this DOES end up with some new LF4 engine (with better parts), I'm gonna be pissed because I've got a couple grand worth of LF3 parts in my spare room... Should have waited, could have had better stuff... I'm excited for this to come out though. GM is making so much good stuff that I want, it makes me sad that I can't have all of them... Need to win the lottery...