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I have a '13 1LE with HF Cats and a LSR CAI along with a soft tune. I've never been on a dyno so i can't tell you what i make power wise but I have yet to lose to a ZL1 whether it be from a roll or dig all the way thru the top end. My uncle has a ZL1 and another guy in town also has one and they both struggle to get by me on the streets or the track. matter fact neither one can break a 12 sec pass and i run 12.5s-12.6s consecutively. so yes it is very much possible but then again i get told i have a FACTORY FREAK! ALL HAIL THE 1LE
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What are the trap speeds for your cars and theirs though? Trap speed is equally as important as ET.
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07-29-2015, 06:33 AM | #17 |
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you're not allowed to post things that upset ZL owners
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07-29-2015, 06:56 AM | #18 |
I’ll be the first to admit that I do not understand why or how my 1le beat both the ZL-1’s. Some of you said it’s the driver; I suppose that’s the most plausible explanation. I suppose it’s possible the guy shifted to 6th gear… but I was pulling him the entire run from 65 to 165 once and from 65 to the mid-150’s 3 times. Keep in mind, I may have gained 2 car links that entire period, so I wasn’t pulling the ZL-1 by much.
Oh, and my horsepower calculation is from a Mustang dyno calculated to be 517 at the flywheel, not to the rear tires. The other consideration is that it was HOT here in East Texas during our encounter. Temperature was bouncing between 99 and 100 on my heads up display. That may have given an unusual advantage to my N/A engine. The guy in the ZL-1 pulled up and talked to me afterwards, and couldn't believe the outcome any more than I could. He asked if I'd had much work done to my car, and I said "yes" mainly hoping to make him feel better! He asked If I'd installed a super-charger on mine...which of course I haven't. I think most of your points are well taken. Maybe the guy in the ZL-1 at the Texas Mile really was just taking it easy on his new car, and maybe this guy went into 6th gear... who knows.....
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07-29-2015, 07:58 AM | #21 |
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People often disregard just how important the driver/owner of the car is in relation to its performance.
All things being equal, ZL1 is the faster car, period. But the right owner/car combo can surely embarrass a superior vehicle...
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I have no doubt the ZL-1 is the superior car.... But winning two out of two had me wondering!
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Two samples does not a validated trend make, although you always have to be happy with a win, no matter why. So congrats on that. If you were say, 10-0 vs 10 different ZL1s, then that's a trend worth noting.
See if you can get one of them to swap cars and do it again...that will tell you all you need to know. If you lose after the swap, then you need to hold on to that 1LE!!!
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I too have had a similar experience. I have a good buddy with a ZL1 that met up with me shortly after he got his car to do a few runs. He was stock other than CAI. I had the bolts ons listed below. His is stick too. We did two runs from a roll going from about 25-100mph. Both times we were dead even. We were both suprised. In fact after that encounter he felt he had to do something. So he now has LT, hiflows, PTB, and a nice tune. We haven't met up again yet to race, but no doubt he will take me now. I think he said he is doing appx 535-540hp to the wheels now. No clue where he was at when we raced.
Don't know why he didn't do better than stay even with me. I'm a decent driver, but nothing special. Even at a 25mph start point, I had some spinning, though not bad. So even if he had spun, he wasn't the only one. But it was warm enough and being 25mph start, I think we both hooked reasonably well. Maybe he was heat soaked? Though I think it was perhaps only in the 80's. Maybe he had poor gas? Don't know.
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08-02-2015, 01:40 AM | #26 |
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Go run your car at the track and really see how fast it is, anyone can win against a poorly driven car but you beat the driver not the car
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ZL1 driver error. If you look at the fast list a stock Zl1 has run 11.558 in the 1/4 and with bolt-ons 10.052. So far a bolt-on 1LE has not cracked 12.3. Or has it? Which car has the potential to be faster? Simple. For some reason the 2013 and up SSes including the 1LE seem to dyno higher than the older SSes. EPS? Gearing? But no matter they aren't any faster in the 1/4. Not taking away from your experience OP, you beat a faster car. Nice driving.
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