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Reelgrinder · 11-28-2015, 04:51 PM

Any gains to be had by buying a MSD Atomic, FAST, or Aluminum Profesional Products intake?

I'm going TT and want to know if it make more power or torque or even throttle response buying an aftermarket one. I like the looks of the atomic the most. I show my car and will miss the way my eforce looked with my show theme.

I have heard the FAST can leak but not sure.

I have to buy a intake so what's another 600.00

blake-b · 11-28-2015, 04:57 PM

Buy a stock LS3 and spend the extra money on something else like towards a meth kit, suspension items, tires, gas. The stock LS3 intake is pretty hard to beat unless you are doing a max effort build.

Numerous people have made over 1kwhp with the stock intake and throttle body.

stock block · 11-28-2015, 05:16 PM

I'm no expert but the videos of the fast being taken apart to show the portable intake runners makes the manifold look weak and thin , id go with the aluminum for the extra thickness not flow

Jeff_SS · 11-28-2015, 05:33 PM

My buddy made 886rwhp with twin turbos with the stock intake manifold. The stock flows perfectly well.
Save the money for something else.

pincushin3819 · 11-28-2015, 05:34 PM

Like blake b said stock tb, manifold & heads are good for well over 1000 rwhp. Atomic looks cool for shows but I don't know about it psi rating if it's anything like the fast I would use it if it was for free. Custom aluminums are pretty expensive unless your trying to integrate a custom meth/nitrous system I wouldn't bother. There are couple hi raise options also if you want to go that route.

pincushin3819 · 11-28-2015, 05:37 PM

P.S. I'm at 1053rwhp or so with a stock tb, intake manifold & heads.

pincushin3819 · 11-28-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_SS

My buddy made 886rwhp with twin turbos with the stock intake manifold. The stock flows perfectly well.
Save the money for something else.

That's a bad a$$ picture!

Reelgrinder · 11-28-2015, 05:51 PM

Ok sounds good.

blake-b · 11-28-2015, 05:56 PM

If you decide you need a Holley Hi Ram or mid rise (I wouldn't consider it as it hasn't shown any gains in the posts I've seen), you will have to cut your cowl and lose your passenger wiper. With the hi ram, you'll need a cowl hood because it won't clear the stock hood.

However, my advice is still stock LS3. Have it hydrodipped in a pattern pleasing to you if you want it to stick out a little (eye candy).

Unreal · 11-28-2015, 06:08 PM

Stock intake has made over 1500rwhp.

Put the money into suspension/tires/drivetrain. Intake manifold is a complete waste of money at anything <1400rwhp.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 11-28-2015, 10:04 PM

My untouched factory intake manifold and throttle body was on the car for 1700 ish RWHP with spray, 1330 with boost only.

We only moved to a sheet metal intake when we started aiming for 2000 + RWHP on boost only. We no longer have nitrous on the car...

Moreair1 · 11-28-2015, 10:30 PM

I would agree to this," Have it hydrodipped in a pattern pleasing to you if you want it to stick out a little (eye candy)". look at Blake's profile he has a picture of one hydrodipped and looks good

BadAquaBluSS · 11-29-2015, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

My untouched factory intake manifold and throttle body was on the car for 1700 ish RWHP with spray, 1330 with boost only.

We only moved to a sheet metal intake when we started aiming for 2000 + RWHP on boost only. We no longer have nitrous on the car...

been awhile since I've been on here, looks like that car has

turned into a real beast nice job man 2000 hp wow!!!

stevieturbo · 11-30-2015, 05:07 PM

Whilst there is no doubt OEM works superbly, it does seem some of the aftermarket intakes do still help things, perhaps more so if using higher rpm's

If staying below 6-6500rpm, OEM just works. If wanting a little help at the top end, the likes of the Atomic could be worth it for you, especially as it sounds like you have no intake to start with anyway.

11-28-2015, 04:51 PM	#1
Reelgrinder Drives: 2016 SS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: DFW Posts: 228	Intake manifold for Twin Turbo. Any gains to be had by buying a MSD Atomic, FAST, or Aluminum Profesional Products intake? I'm going TT and want to know if it make more power or torque or even throttle response buying an aftermarket one. I like the looks of the atomic the most. I show my car and will miss the way my eforce looked with my show theme. I have heard the FAST can leak but not sure. I have to buy a intake so what's another 600.00 __________________ 2016 SS with Eforce 2300 Borla Headers Borla Atak

11-28-2015, 05:33 PM	#4
Jeff_SS "Cam Only" Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,774 View My Garage	My buddy made 886rwhp with twin turbos with the stock intake manifold. The stock flows perfectly well. Save the money for something else. Attached Images __________________ 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS M6 \| LSA Blower, 2.5" pulley, 10% lower, FIC1000's, Fore Innovations Twin Pump fuel system w/ Flex Fuel, CMS Custom Grind Cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers w/ catless off-road pipes, NPP Exhaust, 3.91's, JLT ZL1 Intake, Prospeed Heat Exchanger, Monster S Series Triple Disc Clutch \| Pfadt Suspension, 1LE Sway Bars \| DSS 1000hp axles \| Mickey Thompson ET Street R 305/45/18 \| Tuned by Ryne @ CMS E85: 734rwhp/674rwtq

11-28-2015, 05:51 PM	#8
Reelgrinder Drives: 2016 SS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: DFW Posts: 228	Ok sounds good. __________________ 2016 SS with Eforce 2300 Borla Headers Borla Atak

11-28-2015, 06:08 PM	#10
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Stock intake has made over 1500rwhp. Put the money into suspension/tires/drivetrain. Intake manifold is a complete waste of money at anything <1400rwhp. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-28-2015, 10:04 PM	#11
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,802	My untouched factory intake manifold and throttle body was on the car for 1700 ish RWHP with spray, 1330 with boost only. We only moved to a sheet metal intake when we started aiming for 2000 + RWHP on boost only. We no longer have nitrous on the car... Attached Images __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

11-28-2015, 04:57 PM	#2
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Buy a stock LS3 and spend the extra money on something else like towards a meth kit, suspension items, tires, gas. The stock LS3 intake is pretty hard to beat unless you are doing a max effort build. Numerous people have made over 1kwhp with the stock intake and throttle body.

11-28-2015, 05:16 PM	#3
stock block Drives: 2015 zl1 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Calgary Posts: 200	I'm no expert but the videos of the fast being taken apart to show the portable intake runners makes the manifold look weak and thin , id go with the aluminum for the extra thickness not flow

11-28-2015, 05:34 PM	#5
pincushin3819 Drives: 11 AGP TT SS, 14 ECS C7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 352	Like blake b said stock tb, manifold & heads are good for well over 1000 rwhp. Atomic looks cool for shows but I don't know about it psi rating if it's anything like the fast I would use it if it was for free. Custom aluminums are pretty expensive unless your trying to integrate a custom meth/nitrous system I wouldn't bother. There are couple hi raise options also if you want to go that route.

11-28-2015, 05:37 PM	#6
pincushin3819 Drives: 11 AGP TT SS, 14 ECS C7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 352	P.S. I'm at 1053rwhp or so with a stock tb, intake manifold & heads.

11-28-2015, 05:56 PM	#9
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	If you decide you need a Holley Hi Ram or mid rise (I wouldn't consider it as it hasn't shown any gains in the posts I've seen), you will have to cut your cowl and lose your passenger wiper. With the hi ram, you'll need a cowl hood because it won't clear the stock hood. However, my advice is still stock LS3. Have it hydrodipped in a pattern pleasing to you if you want it to stick out a little (eye candy).

11-28-2015, 10:30 PM	#12
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	I would agree to this," Have it hydrodipped in a pattern pleasing to you if you want it to stick out a little (eye candy)". look at Blake's profile he has a picture of one hydrodipped and looks good

11-30-2015, 05:07 PM	#14
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,128	Whilst there is no doubt OEM works superbly, it does seem some of the aftermarket intakes do still help things, perhaps more so if using higher rpm's If staying below 6-6500rpm, OEM just works. If wanting a little help at the top end, the likes of the Atomic could be worth it for you, especially as it sounds like you have no intake to start with anyway.