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Old 02-18-2017, 08:40 PM   #1
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5.5" Tilton install. Free rev video inside

Finally got the clutch installed. Had a small hicup on the hydraulic release bearing and need to machine an adapter. Here's a little clip of it. ENJOY!!!! Will get some drivability video soon......... https://youtu.be/olKq3JOeUMo
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:34 AM   #2
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WHY? BTW Monster makes a billet bearing support to replace the stock prone to melt plastic POS, your clutch is what that bad already you had to replace it?..... Mine was fine with 15k on stock built engine before my current engine and new 700 hp clutch which drives like stock and used the stock slave. SO you have headers but went with 1.85 rockers effectively netting a little with more lift but not netting dang near anything in the duration or LSA of the cam while effectively narrowing your PTV clearance and are running flex fuel for most the gain along with a tune and headers.

' MY point being your kind of odd, to increase the lift is not a common mod, and the rockers...well not needed for any other performance cam as the cam will kick just increasing the stock cams lifts arse all across the board. SO in effect you take the .550/.525 lift stock and make a .600/.575 lift with very inefficient LSA and duration and PTV at a minimum and then the valve cover clearance..and geometry things to think about...its just so a case of wanting to just do bolt ons in excess be it yellow terras or comps or what have you most would undoubtedly say forget it...A very hard to resell part most likely not cheap either for quality.. SO for any that read this you may want to think not so much about this possibility .....as it of course has been thought of before like in the stone age and then doing higher ratio rockers is best with low lift cam with lots of duration and a tight LSA to match.. basically a cam that needs more lift that you are going to force through valve train geometry not built into the lobes of the cam.

SO before some think of Frankenstein-ing...... most experts would...yes not be machining their own parts to make something work and not be going with 1.85 rockers, sure someone has to do it to be different, most just do a cam install because.... going cheap on somethings only costs you more in the end sometimes.

Thanks why I spent about 1400$ for my dual disc Lt1s clutch that could last my engines life and it fits the stock slave and they make a billet support a common Monster mod that all good shops know about after taking apart so many melted supports now.
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Good luck to you in VA its kind of a sure thing your into saving money.... Sometimes I have to be too...as crap happens I know.

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Old 02-19-2017, 09:07 AM   #3
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Pissed I couldn't make it! Sounds bitchin!

Christian: why do you feel the need to put people down on their threads discussing their builds and then promote your build and the sponsors you bought parts from? Honestly asking
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:20 PM   #4
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That's a 2k clutch rated for 700hp lol saving money........no I'm all about making my car perform the way I want it. Thanks for the input again Christian.
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Old 02-20-2017, 12:24 PM   #5
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That's why sometimes help is needed, and the clutch was 1400$ with a new flywheel and shipping; the Billet bearing support for the clutch is like $70.... Just pointing it out if that's a issue as I have seen picks of the stock support melted to crap from heat engaging it too much..... And I don't know if your is trashed..? or why so new changing the clutch...? doing road courses?..... I would recommend the bearing support....save a slave...LOL / clutch And his build is just more a curious build as in whether it works better with the e-85 which no way I am going to do ever.... its just not around and I daily drive....and wonder about the clearance under the valve covers.... I know I wish I could do small bore ls7 heads but don't have a fortune... I also know people try double rollers then discover they don't fit without machining the timing cover cutting out for clearance with a dremel etc.... Its different but.... like the heads .....well justifying about 4 grand to have new heads to gain the ability to go ls7 MSD airforce intake .....not happening right now....LOL and 102 TB Nick Williams not exactly the same price as a Vmax.....LOL

And I know the ls7 style heads would be 1.8 ratio and therefore I could go with a milder lift cut cam lobes but still would want lots of duration and a tight LSA.....and even more duration with my stroker....What I really should have went with in the first place but Kips helper said the stage three was fine,( I did not see the stroker cams online at commotion then....maybe they came out afterward)..... Anyway Kip online said he would have given me one for free from the results on my dyno... Long story..... being milder until flames are out on wallet still smoldering........I looked for the best clutch while not too expensive to go dual disc and using the stock slave also is a bonus and its longevity should way out last the stock though it was in fine shape I don't believe in burning clutches...LOL

I know money talks BS walks....anyway, here just looking out for others...

http://monsterclutches.com/gen-5-cam...earing-support

And due to the popularity I think the price has gone down, I ordered mine with the bearing support and a bleeder and I think it looks like the 1200 range now....
http://monsterclutches.com/gen-5-cam...et-gen5-clutch

' Good luck anyway maybe this bearing support is what your talking about? Or you could find something here:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ad...ryID=TILTONHRB Anyway I know there are 5 grand carbon five disc Tilton clutches.....if you want to talk spendy....
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Old 02-20-2017, 12:56 PM   #6
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This is not your average set up Christian. This is a Triple disc Tilton with a flexplate and button. Google it lol I'm odd yet make more power then most cammed cars.......... I prefer my 1.85 rockers over your camshaft for the simple fact ITS MY CAR. Whats your car run at the track???? How did it do on the dyno???? I'm curious just how great your stroked motor is.
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:17 PM   #7
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WHY? BTW Monster makes a billet bearing support to replace the stock prone to melt plastic POS, your clutch is what that bad already you had to replace it?..... Mine was fine with 15k on stock built engine before my current engine and new 700 hp clutch which drives like stock and used the stock slave. SO you have headers but went with 1.85 rockers effectively netting a little with more lift but not netting dang near anything in the duration or LSA of the cam while effectively narrowing your PTV clearance and are running flex fuel for most the gain along with a tune and headers.

' MY point being your kind of odd, to increase the lift is not a common mod, and the rockers...well not needed for any other performance cam as the cam will kick just increasing the stock cams lifts arse all across the board. SO in effect you take the .550/.525 lift stock and make a .600/.575 lift with very inefficient LSA and duration and PTV at a minimum and then the valve cover clearance..and geometry things to think about...its just so a case of wanting to just do bolt ons in excess be it yellow terras or comps or what have you most would undoubtedly say forget it...A very hard to resell part most likely not cheap either for quality.. SO for any that read this you may want to think not so much about this possibility .....as it of course has been thought of before like in the stone age and then doing higher ratio rockers is best with low lift cam with lots of duration and a tight LSA to match.. basically a cam that needs more lift that you are going to force through valve train geometry not built into the lobes of the cam.

SO before some think of Frankenstein-ing...... most experts would...yes not be machining their own parts to make something work and not be going with 1.85 rockers, sure someone has to do it to be different, most just do a cam install because.... going cheap on somethings only costs you more in the end sometimes.

Thanks why I spent about 1400$ for my dual disc Lt1s clutch that could last my engines life and it fits the stock slave and they make a billet support a common Monster mod that all good shops know about after taking apart so many melted supports now.
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Good luck to you in VA its kind of a sure thing your into saving money.... Sometimes I have to be too...as crap happens I know.

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/vem...e-rocker-arms/
Clutch was changed do to it being a 58 pound POS.......... 5.5" Tilton 17 pounds = net loss off the crank 41 pounds I don't know how you can say im into saving money with all the quality bolt ons I have selected.......
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Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:55 PM   #8
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What kind of shit is this Christian dude smoking?
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:18 PM   #9
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What kind of shit is this Christian dude smoking?
I have a hard time reading his posts, so I just skip over them.
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'lol same here...tryin to be fair but somebody who feels the need to slam anothers post as per the above should really take a step back...seriously...

Phil..tks fer lettin me in on most of the work, nice seeing a trans and clutch come out, plus being able to shoot the shit face to face instead of electronically....and tell Doug appreciated the hospitality...now for Mason Dixon...

BTW - you talked about this very thing on Saturday...
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See you at mason dixon!
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I have a hard time reading his posts, so I just skip over them.
I don't think anybody reads them.
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I don't think anybody reads them.
All I see is that he posted something. The block list on this site works quite well.


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All I see is that he posted something. The block list on this site works quite well.

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LMAO that's great
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