A RJT 2010 V6/RS owner carjacked and abducted yesterday from metro in Springfield VA

[GRAHL]

did they catch the perp? What's scary is that this guy will do it again. Even scarier, why kidnap the girl? It's totally unnecessary, she could have just been shoved out, but she was put in the trunk. Taking the extra steps to put someone in the trunk? That, to me, sounds like someone had plans for her. ever read about the florida mall serial killer guy? self defense guys, awareness first, and how and when to use a gun if need be.

[navyflyer72]

Originally Posted by missionbrent

I would like to see some statistics on these points. I am a police officer and every piece of advise in any literature I have seen advises a woman to fight their attackers. Also more often than not persons abducted by a starnger are not found alive. This woman was very lucky. As I said, having seen stories like this everyday in the news and work, there are plenty of situations where you can get your gun out (and many CPL holders do, it's on the news everyday) and fire first. No need to get into some argument about it you have your opinions and I have mine.

There are some simple habits to get into to make sure you can keep control of these situations. Keep your gun on your right side in the car. Your body conceals you pulling it. Most modern cars have automatic locking doors so the doors will lock when the carjacker gets there. My windows are tinted so the guy can't see what I am doing till the door opens. Now it is just a matter of shooting him through the window or driving off while trying to conceal as much of your body as possible. I myself would just fire through the window. The guy would be so suprised I would seriously doubt he fires back, and if he does he probably won't hit anything. If he breaks the window as soon as he gets there fall over to your right side. You can pull your gun without being seen in this position. Then wait till he pulls you from the car or basicaly lets his guard down to try and control you by pulling you out of the car. There's your chance shoot as you move parallel and away from him. Most cities have CPL clubs or NRA type clubs that you can join and they actually run simulations like this. If you don't understand the way a criminal thinks then you will never understand why you have a good chance to fight back and win.

Again I do not want to get into an argument. I revert to my earlier statements about who's minds would be swayed by these postings and it is not the CPL holders. I also will guide you back to my earlier quote. I consider my self and able good man so I will do my part so maybe the guy I shoot doesn't rob and shoot you or someone you love (and I would do the same if I wasn't an ex-soldier and police officer).

Great points. I would also advise those who want to carry concealed to not only run through the drills, but do it frequently. I shoot with the military and with a private group and we run our drills VERY frequently, responding to this sort of (however unlikely it may be) situation will be much easier if you have made it muscle memory. You don't have to be Rambo or a ninja to survive (win) in a situation like this, you just have to react appropriately.

[tradosaurus]

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

The points I'm trying to make are that

#2. If you have a CPL it may make you think you're an unstoppable badass, but in a real-life carjacking situation if you get out your gun it will likely result in a shootout. This is again assuming the gun is actually on you instead of in the car somewhere.

Didn't you know? Everyone in Texas is a badass.

Also I don't carry the gun on me while I'm driving since the seat belt is in the way. I have it concealed usually in a front cubby hole or between the seat and armrest where I can access it.