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baclarsen · 09-24-2009, 05:37 PM

Guess I'll be getting an ipod. Thx

Supermans · 09-24-2009, 05:39 PM

I have a 1SS and already connect the Ipod via analog?? Why would I need this??

baclarsen · 09-24-2009, 05:46 PM

if connected by usb you can control with the radio head plus song info will show on radio.
not to mention digital vs analog.

UCF w00t · 09-24-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermans

I have a 1SS and already connect the Ipod via analog?? Why would I need this??

It's nice to be able to plug it in and use the head unit/steering wheel controls (which you won't have) to control the iPod instead of the iPod itself but there really isn't too much of a point IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baclarsen

not to mention digital vs analog.

That's dubious at best. In the Camaro, the iPod does all the decoding and just sends the raw audio across. Not sure of the DSP/decoder that the PDIM module has, but you may be better off with a USB drive since the iPod's DSP is mediocre. The audio is converted to analog and sent from the PDIM to the head unit anyways.

baclarsen · 09-24-2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

It's nice to be able to plug it in and use the head unit/steering wheel controls (which you won't have) to control the iPod instead of the iPod itself but there really isn't too much of a point IMO.

the iPod does all the decoding and just sends the raw audio across.

When you say raw audio do mean the ipod sends analog audio to the head unit?

CamaroScotty · 09-24-2009, 10:55 PM

I was told like $165...maybe thats Dave's price....but we'll know more in about a week. but we've all seen what happended to the 4-pack, so we'll see.

DDustiNN · 09-24-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermans

I have a 1SS and already connect the Ipod via analog?? Why would I need this??

Quote:

Originally Posted by baclarsen

if connected by usb you can control with the radio head plus song info will show on radio.
not to mention digital vs analog.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

It's nice to be able to plug it in and use the head unit/steering wheel controls (which you won't have) to control the iPod instead of the iPod itself but there really isn't too much of a point IMO.

That's dubious at best. In the Camaro, the iPod does all the decoding and just sends the raw audio across. Not sure of the DSP/decoder that the PDIM module has, but you may be better off with a USB drive since the iPod's DSP is mediocre. The audio is converted to analog and sent from the PDIM to the head unit anyways.

Also, by connecting your iPod via USB cable, it works as a charger. So you don't have to worry about draining the battery

THUMPER20X · 09-24-2009, 11:07 PM

The USB is a true digital signal out of the iPod. Analog only comes from the phones jack. I will definitely getting this part. It was the only thing that the 1SS didnt have that i wanted. So sweet.

Windy City · 09-24-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

I was told like $165...maybe thats Dave's price....but we'll know more in about a week. but we've all seen what happended to the 4-pack, so we'll see.

I guess you don't have em in stock yet? If you do I'll take one Tuesday!

UCF w00t · 09-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baclarsen

When you say raw audio do mean the ipod sends analog audio to the head unit?

It's uncompressed digital audio but it doesn't really matter. It just goes to the PDIM and from there it's analog to the head unit. It's still using the iPod's decoder/DSP so that's where the level of quality is coming from. iPods use a lackluster decoder/DSP so I wouldn't be too surprised if the one in the PDIM is better. Yea, with the aux jack it's analog one step earlier but unless you have a crap cable, you won't notice any difference.

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Originally Posted by DDustiNN

Also, by connecting your iPod via USB cable, it works as a charger. So you don't have to worry about draining the battery

This is the biggest benefit IMO.

rodimus prime · 09-25-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

It's nice to be able to plug it in and use the head unit/steering wheel controls (which you won't have) to control the iPod instead of the iPod itself but there really isn't too much of a point IMO.

That's dubious at best. In the Camaro, the iPod does all the decoding and just sends the raw audio across. Not sure of the DSP/decoder that the PDIM module has, but you may be better off with a USB drive since the iPod's DSP is mediocre. The audio is converted to analog and sent from the PDIM to the head unit anyways.

I dont know, there is a huge difference in sound between connecing the usb port of my zune, to using the headphone jack for playback, unless thats just the zune (which Ive felt has always been superior for music anyways). I got so mad at the usb failure that I started using the 3.5mm jack, and it sounds like $hit, so now I use CDs again, like Im in the 90's.

UCF w00t · 09-25-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

I dont know, there is a huge difference in sound between connecing the usb port of my zune, to using the headphone jack for playback, unless thats just the zune (which Ive felt has always been superior for music anyways). I got so mad at the usb failure that I started using the 3.5mm jack, and it sounds like $hit, so now I use CDs again, like Im in the 90's.

Interesting. Maybe your aux cable sucks? I'll try it with my Zune later. But yes, the Zune does reportedly have a better DAC than the iPod. There's really not much of a technical reason why the Aux coming from the Zune would be worse than the USB. The basic paths go as follows...

USB/Zune
Digital Compressed > PDIM. Analog > head unit

iPod (usb)
Digital uncompressed > PDIM. Analog > head unit

Analog (with pdim)
Analog > PDIM. Analog > head unit

Analog (no PDIM)
Analog > PDIM

baclarsen · 09-25-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

It's uncompressed digital audio but it doesn't really matter. It just goes to the PDIM and from there it's analog to the head unit. It's still using the iPod's decoder/DSP so that's where the level of quality is coming from. iPods use a lackluster decoder/DSP so I wouldn't be too surprised if the one in the PDIM is better. Yea, with the aux jack it's analog one step earlier but unless you have a crap cable, you won't notice any difference.

This is the biggest benefit IMO.

Ok now I understand what you were saying. looks like I wont be getting ipod after all usb drive $15 all day long.

rodimus prime · 09-25-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

Interesting. Maybe your aux cable sucks? I'll try it with my Zune later. But yes, the Zune does reportedly have a better DAC than the iPod. There's really not much of a technical reason why the Aux coming from the Zune would be worse than the USB. The basic paths go as follows...

USB/Zune
Digital Compressed > PDIM. Analog > head unit

iPod (usb)
Digital uncompressed > PDIM. Analog > head unit

Analog (with pdim)
Analog > PDIM. Analog > head unit

Analog (no PDIM)
Analog > PDIM

HEY HEY HEY! Im a quality cable guy.

When you think of quality cables, you think of Rodimus Prime. (except I never buy Monster Cables)

Seriously, Im a quality cable guy. Dont let me hear you talking like that again.

09-24-2009, 05:39 PM	#16
Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,729 View My Garage	I have a 1SS and already connect the Ipod via analog?? Why would I need this?? __________________ Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266

09-24-2009, 11:07 PM	#22
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,856	The USB is a true digital signal out of the iPod. Analog only comes from the phones jack. I will definitely getting this part. It was the only thing that the 1SS didnt have that i wanted. So sweet. __________________

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09-24-2009, 10:55 PM	#20
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,790	I was told like $165...maybe thats Dave's price....but we'll know more in about a week. but we've all seen what happended to the 4-pack, so we'll see.