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camarowa · 05-14-2010, 02:05 PM

I read the car and driver article as well. I am sure that the new v6 mustang is a worthy competitor to our cars. Maybe it is a little quicker, but it will still be very much a driver's race. No doubt it is a nice car, I am just not a big fan of the styling. The only thing that suprises me is that every article I read keeps stating that the mustang v6 is limited at 113mph. So at least for the time being we have that advantage.

TheClassicCarKid · 05-14-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Impact

Every article I have read or the videos I have seen state the Mustang V6 is half a second or quicker then my 2010 V6. I have no problem with that because I love my car.

The Mustang v6 without gears is still alot quicker then a 2010 V6 Camaro and a V6 with gears is even faster then a Camaro v6. Every other magazine states the Mustang is better, so just because this one says the Camaro is better everyone is rubbing their egos.

There is a V6 Mustang running a 2010 Camaro, looks like the Mustang pulls more then a little bit as someone here stated.

Let's not confuse faster with better

oldlugs · 05-14-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

Let's not confuse faster with better

...or better with faster..

Maurdib · 05-14-2010, 02:33 PM

Most of you fail to realize the article is not about speed, it's about drivability and comfort. The assume Automatic owners simply want the style of the car and performance is secondary.

Basicall they are saying the would give up .4 tenths of second for a better drive and style

scythezo6 · 05-14-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

Most of you fail to realize the article is not about speed, it's about drivability and comfort. The assume Automatic owners simply want the style of the car and performance is secondary.

Basicall they are saying the would give up .4 tenths of second for a better drive and style

Yeap. Read people. Its easy. Stop throwing your quarter mile stats and C&D articles at each other. Comfort, everyday driveability and style is what this is about. Fan boys get rilled up easy.

Impact · 05-14-2010, 04:28 PM

I do remember Car and Driver saying that the Mustang GT was a better, more comforable, better driving car then the Camaro SS despite the Camaro SS being faster and Camaro fans went nuts and hated Car and Driver. Besides, Motor Trend, Car and Driver already said the Mustang V6 was the better car. Who cares what CNN says lol.

Besides, I'm no fanboy of any of the cars. I love my 2010 Camaro v6 and if you've read my previous posts you'd see that but after being on this forum seeing how childish some of you act when the Mustang wins, well I makes me sick. I'm currently trying to sell a 4-runner to get a 2003 Cobra or a 2002 Trans-AM. I bought my 2010 Camaro v6 because it was beautiful and because it had 304 hp. I've just been getting beat by about every other car that has around the same ammount of horse power or less because of how much my car weighs. I got my car for looks and power but have came to the realization that it isn't that fast as I have friends with Z28's, GT's that all have beat me. Raced a 96 Cobra with 305 hp and he beat me about 4 car lenths, that is enough to make you pissed considering we have about the same hp. The New v6 Mustang runs what a 305 hp car should and Chevrolet really dropped the ball. It seems all they cared was looks and hp. They had to slap 312 hp in the v6 Camaro just to make it decent because of the weight.

I can buy a car and not even be a fan of the brand. I think the 82-2002 Camaro's are ugly as sin. I do however like the style of the 94-2004 Mustang GT. Love the older 64-71 Mustangs, 67-71 Camaros. I despise the 80's Camaros and Mustangs. If you did read my other posts you'd know that I usually correct anyone that gives wrong information.

Maurdib · 05-14-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Impact

I do remember Car and Driver saying that the Mustang GT was a better, more comforable, better driving car then the Camaro SS despite the Camaro SS being faster and Camaro fans went nuts and hated Car and Driver. Besides, Motor Trend, Car and Driver already said the Mustang V6 was the better car. Who cares what CNN says lol.

Besides, I'm no fanboy of any of the cars. I love my 2010 Camaro v6 and if you've read my previous posts you'd see that but after being on this forum seeing how childish some of you act when the Mustang wins, well I makes me sick. I'm currently trying to sell a 4-runner to get a 2003 Cobra or a 2002 Trans-AM. I bought my 2010 Camaro v6 because it was beautiful and because it had 304 hp. I've just been getting beat by about every other car that has around the same ammount of horse power or less because of how much my car weighs. I got my car for looks and power but have came to the realization that it isn't that fast as I have friends with Z28's, GT's that all have beat me. Raced a 96 Cobra with 305 hp and he beat me about 4 car lenths, that is enough to make you pissed considering we have about the same hp. The New v6 Mustang runs what a 305 hp car should and Chevrolet really dropped the ball. It seems all they cared was looks and hp. They had to slap 312 hp in the v6 Camaro just to make it decent because of the weight.

I can buy a car and not even be a fan of the brand. I think the 82-2002 Camaro's are ugly as sin. I do however like the style of the 94-2004 Mustang GT. Love the older 64-71 Mustangs, 67-71 Camaros. I despise the 80's Camaros and Mustangs. If you did read my other posts you'd know that I usually correct anyone that gives wrong information.

yeah but again for you it's about racing your friends, for CNN and most drivers its about good power, speed, drivability, and style. If you wanted to race your friends either do mods or you should have gotten the SS

john2000car · 05-15-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

yeah but again for you it's about racing your friends, for CNN and most drivers its about good power, speed, drivability, and style. If you wanted to race your friends either do mods or you should have gotten the SS

Fun conversations in this thread. Maurdib, I totally agree with all your comments. And I stick by my original post above - insert and highlight 2011 Ford motor/transmission point of the article. I always knew GM would bring the Camaro back because of its popularity (owned a new 73). When seeing the first mag and online pics, I knew I would get one without knowing any other specs. I was blown away when I saw the 2010 specs (and, yes, checked the rival Mustang specs - no comparison, no surprise). Happily, I was born and raised during the muscle car years and through much of that learned the reputational qualities of the big 3 mfgs. FYI - It was mostly all GM (details stripped). Tough deciding V8 or V6, auto or manual (tap shift helped me decide this one - auto). With my lead foot, I opted for the V6 after test drive when accidentally popping the manual tran peeling out at a stop sign. I also calculated that just the sight of the V6 would scare the daylights out of probably 98% of the 2010 Mustang dudes (proven right already - 'fellow comrades in competition'). I didn't expect to always be so much ahead of future cars with my 2010. Keep the SS and the aftermarket news coming. Maybe, 2011s have nearly caught up in speed, but haven't read much about the 2011 SS. Sorry 'bout the chapter'.

john2000car · 05-15-2010, 12:30 AM

Question for the Camaro techies on here. I think I found a 95 mph limiter/governor using the tapshift manual M6 on topend. Didn't need more at the time and not a problem, just curious. Isn't this near the 1/4 mile time for the V6? Wondering if this same limiter would be using M6 (S) auto? I won't be able to check topend unless I go west to some desert roads sometime. I think have read on here about 155 mph, but thinking that may have been for the V8, not the V6. That 160 speedometer gotta be there for a reason.

CamaroBelarus · 05-15-2010, 01:07 AM

Yeah, Car n Driver i forgot, sorry, it was 104. Now back to CNN and my post, READ again plz. I was saying about auto. If CNN will use m6 in another tests, we will compare. And "bullshit" word i used was about MT, cos every their "review" is a paid propagation of the ford, that is obvious to me. They have to sell new stangs somehow... No problem with another magz. Seems their reviews are fair. So again to my post, nothing changed: stang is faster and more expensively for 1-1.5к. No problem make camaro as fast as a stang in a same price with mods. And still ul be better in everything : tranny, independent suspension, comfort, appearance.

mrray13 · 05-15-2010, 12:15 PM

As anyone, mag or otherwise, run a Mustang with base gears? The 2:73s? If not, no one knows how we'll compare to that car. The car that most rags are running has 3:31s (IIRC), so not only is weight an advantage, so is the gearing. Could be why this Mustang didn't respond as well? Maybe it had the 2:73s?

In any case, with the performance package, stock for stock, we'll be looking at the back of the Mustang, unless the driver sucks. That's why you line them up though! I've beaten GTs, turbo 4s and even a Corvette. I've also lost to GTs, SS Camaros and a turbo 4. It happens. Again, that's why you line them up!

5thGenOwner · 05-16-2010, 03:43 PM

MUSTANG
Test car price: $32.975 (that $1k more than a base 1SS)

CAMARO
Test car price: $30,410

Who wants to bet... that with that $2.5K (extra cash you didn't spend on a Mustang) you could spend it on your Camaro mods and it would squash that Mustang in the 1/4 mile!

Personally, I wouldn't spend 30+k on a V-6 Camaro or Mustang! But the Camaro is by far the better deal!!!

8cd03gro · 05-16-2010, 03:48 PM

I'd take that bet. Even the fastest bolt on v6 camaros just broke into 13's. Anyway, I think optioning the cars to that level are just stupid. That 2.5k probably went toward navigation and possibly the glass roof, things that are not available on the camaro. I don't know who would spend 30k on either v6 model. IMO if you're going to spend that much, just get the v8!

CamaroBelarus · 05-16-2010, 04:04 PM

It went to gears, remote start, 18 rims and so on... There is nothing to talk about really until some real ppl buy v6 and go to track, cos paper wars and not very fair magazines are just childish.

About v8... well, for example, v8 will be 8-9k more for me, cos i needed to ship it to Europe and pay on our country custom. v6 is 2700 and for v8 i would pay 6k+ only to cross the border... Plus fuel, plus taxes, plus insurance. The best for me was to get v6 and put 5-6k for turbo, sc setup in the future, so il be as fast as v8 is with all options i needed and for 3-4k less in money. So if u ask who would spend 30k on either v6 model - its me.

05-14-2010, 02:05 PM	#15
camarowa Drives: 2013 SVT Raptor, sold 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PNW....almost canada Posts: 1,907	I read the car and driver article as well. I am sure that the new v6 mustang is a worthy competitor to our cars. Maybe it is a little quicker, but it will still be very much a driver's race. No doubt it is a nice car, I am just not a big fan of the styling. The only thing that suprises me is that every article I read keeps stating that the mustang v6 is limited at 113mph. So at least for the time being we have that advantage. __________________ - Pfadt Suspension Package; Springs & Sways - Brembo Brake Upgrade (Yellow); Courtesy Fesler Built - Custom Magnaflow Exhaust - Blacked-Out Bowties & RS Emblems, Front bowtie delete - Full Dynamat Extreme Trunk Coverage - Tinted side markers - Interior DSV Customs Leather Upgrades - Airaid CAI V2 - Forgestar F14 Gunmetal 20x9, 20x11 - Doug Thorley Shorties

05-14-2010, 02:33 PM	#18
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Most of you fail to realize the article is not about speed, it's about drivability and comfort. The assume Automatic owners simply want the style of the car and performance is secondary. Basicall they are saying the would give up .4 tenths of second for a better drive and style __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

05-16-2010, 03:43 PM	#26
5thGenOwner Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,197	MUSTANG Test car price: $32.975 (that $1k more than a base 1SS) CAMARO Test car price: $30,410 Who wants to bet... that with that $2.5K (extra cash you didn't spend on a Mustang) you could spend it on your Camaro mods and it would *squash* that Mustang in the 1/4 mile! Personally, I wouldn't spend 30+k on a V-6 Camaro or Mustang! But the Camaro is by far the better deal!!! __________________

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05-14-2010, 04:28 PM	#20
Impact Drives: 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 77	I do remember Car and Driver saying that the Mustang GT was a better, more comforable, better driving car then the Camaro SS despite the Camaro SS being faster and Camaro fans went nuts and hated Car and Driver. Besides, Motor Trend, Car and Driver already said the Mustang V6 was the better car. Who cares what CNN says lol. Besides, I'm no fanboy of any of the cars. I love my 2010 Camaro v6 and if you've read my previous posts you'd see that but after being on this forum seeing how childish some of you act when the Mustang wins, well I makes me sick. I'm currently trying to sell a 4-runner to get a 2003 Cobra or a 2002 Trans-AM. I bought my 2010 Camaro v6 because it was beautiful and because it had 304 hp. I've just been getting beat by about every other car that has around the same ammount of horse power or less because of how much my car weighs. I got my car for looks and power but have came to the realization that it isn't that fast as I have friends with Z28's, GT's that all have beat me. Raced a 96 Cobra with 305 hp and he beat me about 4 car lenths, that is enough to make you pissed considering we have about the same hp. The New v6 Mustang runs what a 305 hp car should and Chevrolet really dropped the ball. It seems all they cared was looks and hp. They had to slap 312 hp in the v6 Camaro just to make it decent because of the weight. I can buy a car and not even be a fan of the brand. I think the 82-2002 Camaro's are ugly as sin. I do however like the style of the 94-2004 Mustang GT. Love the older 64-71 Mustangs, 67-71 Camaros. I despise the 80's Camaros and Mustangs. If you did read my other posts you'd know that I usually correct anyone that gives wrong information.

05-15-2010, 12:30 AM	#23
john2000car American_Chevy Drives: 2010 IBM Camaro 2LT RS+ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Albany, IN Posts: 74	Question for the Camaro techies on here. I think I found a 95 mph limiter/governor using the tapshift manual M6 on topend. Didn't need more at the time and not a problem, just curious. Isn't this near the 1/4 mile time for the V6? Wondering if this same limiter would be using M6 (S) auto? I won't be able to check topend unless I go west to some desert roads sometime. I think have read on here about 155 mph, but thinking that may have been for the V8, not the V6. That 160 speedometer gotta be there for a reason.

05-15-2010, 01:07 AM	#24
CamaroBelarus Drives: black 2SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Belarus Posts: 284	Yeah, Car n Driver i forgot, sorry, it was 104. Now back to CNN and my post, READ again plz. I was saying about auto. If CNN will use m6 in another tests, we will compare. And "bullshit" word i used was about MT, cos every their "review" is a paid propagation of the ford, that is obvious to me. They have to sell new stangs somehow... No problem with another magz. Seems their reviews are fair. So again to my post, nothing changed: stang is faster and more expensively for 1-1.5к. No problem make camaro as fast as a stang in a same price with mods. And still ul be better in everything : tranny, independent suspension, comfort, appearance.

05-15-2010, 12:15 PM	#25
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	As anyone, mag or otherwise, run a Mustang with base gears? The 2:73s? If not, no one knows how we'll compare to that car. The car that most rags are running has 3:31s (IIRC), so not only is weight an advantage, so is the gearing. Could be why this Mustang didn't respond as well? Maybe it had the 2:73s? In any case, with the performance package, stock for stock, we'll be looking at the back of the Mustang, unless the driver sucks. That's why you line them up though! I've beaten GTs, turbo 4s and even a Corvette. I've also lost to GTs, SS Camaros and a turbo 4. It happens. Again, that's why you line them up!

05-16-2010, 03:48 PM	#27
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	I'd take that bet. Even the fastest bolt on v6 camaros just broke into 13's. Anyway, I think optioning the cars to that level are just stupid. That 2.5k probably went toward navigation and possibly the glass roof, things that are not available on the camaro. I don't know who would spend 30k on either v6 model. IMO if you're going to spend that much, just get the v8!

05-16-2010, 04:04 PM	#28
CamaroBelarus Drives: black 2SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Belarus Posts: 284	It went to gears, remote start, 18 rims and so on... There is nothing to talk about really until some real ppl buy v6 and go to track, cos paper wars and not very fair magazines are just childish. About v8... well, for example, v8 will be 8-9k more for me, cos i needed to ship it to Europe and pay on our country custom. v6 is 2700 and for v8 i would pay 6k+ only to cross the border... Plus fuel, plus taxes, plus insurance. The best for me was to get v6 and put 5-6k for turbo, sc setup in the future, so il be as fast as v8 is with all options i needed and for 3-4k less in money. So if u ask who would spend 30k on either v6 model - its me.