Why The ZL1 is better than an EV

[CalgaryZL1]

I’m waiting for Dewalt or Milwaukee to build a Car, then I will buy

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

I’m waiting for Dewalt or Milwaukee to build a Car, then I will buy

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

James, in all honesty, I don't understand why you (and a few others) are such ardent EV apologists on this forum, going to such lengths and putting so much effort into these EV posts. Why are you trying to convince people so hard?

I’m mentally allergic to disinformation. A lot of what gets said about EVs in this forum is misinformation. I respond with documented real information. (EV’s have short driving range, EVs take hours to charge, EVs can’t operate in cold weather). A lot of what is said is just bullshit (EVs are only fast in a straight line. EVs are only good for one or two hard runs then they peter out, EV sales are dropping so much that they’re just sitting on dealer lots). I get that a lot of people don’t like EVs. Cool. I don’t like minivans. The difference is I don’t put a lot of energy into trying to convince people that minivans are evil and a political conspiracy forged by the opposite end of the political spectrum and that they shouldn’t even exist. FWIW, I’m on the flip side of the coin on the Tesla site, since I have 3 ICE vehicles in my household and don’t advocate the overall banning of ICE, and openly state that ICE will be around for several more decades.

Originally Posted by arpad_m

If it was just one occasional post here and there, I'd keep my mouth shut, but it's definitely a trend... and for the record, I have nothing against these posts or the availability of EVs in general, to each their own, as long as these things aren't mandated in unacceptable ways. But you already know that even better than I do.

Outside of California they are not mandated. And even for California I am very doubtful that the mandates will stick in their current form. Several California mandates have been modified in the face of what can realistically be done. That’s why we have ZEV, NZEV, PZEV, and ATPZEV designations. Because CARB has realized at several points along the path that what they were pushing for was either not possible or not economically wise, so they backed off.

[CalgaryZL1]

Electric vehicles would work perfectly in my country, if we didn’t have a delusional government with delusional liberal government mandates. It’s called baby steps not I want to get elected next week. That is the one and only problem. How the **** does put the cart before the horse ever work? If you are serious, build the infrastructure first. And why the **** has hydrogen not advanced tenfold? WTF!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_qAta3Gk8

[clg82]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

Electric vehicles would work perfectly in my country, if we didn’t have a delusional government with delusional liberal government mandates. It’s called baby steps not I want to get elected next week. That is the one and only problem. How the **** does put the cart before the horse ever work? If you are serious, build the infrastructure first. And why the **** has hydrogen not advanced tenfold? WTF!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_qAta3Gk8

Build the infrastructure first?!?!!? Noooooo that would make way too much sense!

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

A lot of what gets said about EVs in this forum is misinformation.

The only concrete truth is that EVs are being pushed on us and people are standing up and saying they won't conform and you don't like it. How many booster shots you get? That will help me determine how you feel about a lot of things you post without even needing to read them.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by clg82

The only concrete truth is that EVs are being pushed on us and people are standing up and saying they won't conform and you don't like it. How many booster shots you get? That will help me determine how you feel about a lot of things you post without even needing to read them.

Who’s pushing?

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by clg82

The only concrete truth is that EVs are being pushed on us and people are standing up and saying they won't conform and you don't like it. How many booster shots you get? That will help me determine how you feel about a lot of things you post without even needing to read them.

Hell I’ve never had Covid, never mind booster shots! I think it’s the 55 cigarettes I smoke every day protecting my lungs that kills any of that shit ever happening but I could be wrong

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Who’s pushing?

You and every other talking head from that political party that thinks EVs are going to save the world.

[CalgaryZL1]

Originally Posted by clg82

You and every other talking head from that political party that thinks EVs are going to save the world.

I don’t see many pissed off Californians, when it comes to what’s wrong and right

[clg82]

Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

I don’t see many pissed off Californians, when it comes to what’s wrong and right

All you have to do is look at the population decrease of California to know people aren't happy.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by clg82

The only concrete truth is that EVs are being pushed on us and people are standing up and saying they won't conform and you don't like it. How many booster shots you get? That will help me determine how you feel about a lot of things you post without even needing to read them.

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Who’s pushing?

Originally Posted by clg82

You and every other talking head from that political party that thinks EVs are going to save the world.

I am not a Democrat. I am not a Republican. I do not have the power to push legislation, regulation, or OEM portfolio choice. I do not think that EVs are going to save the world. So, now that we’ve ruled ME out…Who’s pushing?

[TheEnthusiast]

LMAO poor appliance owners. Learning the hard way they got duped.

ICE till the day I die baby!

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by TheEnthusiast

LMAO poor appliance owners. Learning the hard way they got duped.

ICE till the day I die baby!

No one got duped, statements like this only show ignorance. Both technologies can co-exist and will continue for decades to come.