Camaro's Competition

[carsismeZ06]

A better way to look at the V6 powered Camaro (if you think it's down on power) is to look at it compared to it's competitors...

(Green = Best
Red = Worst)

Ford Mustang V6

Engine: 4.0 liter V6

MSRP: $21,735

Horsepower: 210

Torque: 240

Weight: 3,345

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Chevrolet Camaro V6

Engine: 3.6 liter V6

MSRP: N/A (probably around $20-$25,000)

Horsepower: 296 (Then what's with people saying 305?)

Torque: 273

Weight: 3,747

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Dodge Challenger SE

Engine: 3.5 liter V6

MSRP: $24,790

Horsepower: 250

Torque: 250

Weight: 3,720

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(Based off of all high-end models)

*EDIT* Added weight to the picture.

[Muscle Master]

The only one I can think of is the Infinity G35x & G37x, and they both got a six-speed manual & a seven-speed auto .........beast

Edit:
3.5L V6 228 kW (306 hp) (sedan)
3.7L V6 246 kW (330 hp) (coupe)

Personally, Camaro RS got nothing on the G37x due to the fact it got more horses

[Txturbo]

its already been said that the hp numbers are low. You will get the real numbers tomorrow.

[carsismeZ06]

I meant between Dodge, Ford, and Chevy, but yeah, I agree.

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by Txturbo

its already been said that the hp numbers are low. You will get the real numbers tomorrow.

oooh!! Thank you Txturbo! You just made my day! Hoping for 305-310!

[The_Blur]

Expect GM numbers to stay low tomorrow. The Camaro is at the top of its class. There is no reason to doubt that GM will back this car with GMPP performance accessories either.

[BitchinCamaro]

It really makes the V8 Mustang seem weak .

Ford Mustang V8
Engine: 4.6 liter V8
MSRP: $26,425
Horsepower: 300
Torque: 320

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Expect GM numbers to stay low tomorrow. The Camaro is at the top of its class. There is no reason to doubt that GM will back this car with GMPP performance accessories either.

what do you mean by "low"?

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by carsismeZ06

what do you mean by "low"?

GM loves to underestimate numbers. It keeps insurance bearable and makes the competition look like fools.

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

GM loves to underestimate numbers. It keeps insurance bearable and makes the competition look like fools.

so will they tell us that it's 296, or will they tell us it's 305?

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by carsismeZ06

so will they tell us that it's 296, or will they tell us it's 305?

They'll probably tell us 300 and give us 305 or more. If it isn't 305, there are a lot of ways to boost horsepower without telling consumers, like switching spark plugs. They did that to the Cobalt, and that is why the 2007 Cobalt LS has 3 more horsepower than the 2006 model. I believe all this needed was a new computer calibration. They also changed the computer that year, but that did not add any horsepower.

[fastball]

Everyone is missing the point here, and for all of our sakes we better hope GM doesn't.....

The real competition in the V6 isn't the Mustang or Challenger..... it's the Honda Accord EX V6, BMW 1-Series, Nissan Altima 3.5 SE V6, and Toyota Camry Solara SE V6. Before anyone starts flaming, let me elaborate:

All of the cars I mentioned will fall directly in the price range of LS and LT Camaros (mid 20's to low 30s). They are generally reguared as upper class, sophisticated cars that don't really even compete with a Mustang V6 or Challenger V6. GM has been saying all along they want the Camaro to be a cut above the Mustang and Challenger in fit, finish, refinement, and sophistication. Well, as the old saying goes, be carefull what you ask for, you just might get it.

Europe and Japan have really moved ahead of America in the personal performance coupe market. The Accord has 268 hp and can be had with a 6 speed stick, not to mention it comes with everything from leather heated seats to 6 disc in dash changer standard. All for $28k. Same for the Altima and 1-Series.

The Solara isn't as performance oriented as the other cars, but it's still a major player in the market at this price range.

So, it's one thing to outshine and outclass Ford and Dodge. It's another thing to go head to head with Europe and Japan.

It is in the best interest for GM that they do. The Mustang and Challenger won't even be on the radar if GM succeeds in providing a true alternative to Japan and Europe. Top notch interior quality, refined, solid suspension tuning that still handles and performs awesome, and absolutely no cheapness or cut corners. So far it appears as if GM is doing it. An engine that's got all the high tech acronyms (DOHC VVT DI 24V) that people want, whether or not it's any better than a pushrod. 4 wheel independent suspension. Tight, clean body panel fit, and a refined interior (Scott said they were doing their do dilligence in the touch and feel of all the switchgear on the dashboard, and getting graining and fit down perfect on the materials).

That's what sells cars today. If GM succeeds in doing that for the V6 Camaro, the Camaro will sell and live a long, prosperous life.

[4thGen]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

The only one I can think of is the Infinity G35x & G37x, and they both got a six-speed manual & a seven-speed auto .........beast

Edit:
3.5L V6 228 kW (306 hp) (sedan)
3.7L V6 246 kW (330 hp) (coupe)

Personally, Camaro RS got nothing on the G37x due to the fact it got more horses

Ya, but the MSRP of the G35 is $32,250 and the MSRP of the G37 is $34,900.

[Flipflops]

Originally Posted by 4thGen

Ya, but the MSRP of the G35 is $32,250 and the MSRP of the G37 is $34,900.

Lucky to find one close to that price ontop of that from what I have seen.