07-03-2019, 08:43 AM | #99 | |
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What I meant by "try it out" is that we would like to get a kit in to develop packages for. |
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07-03-2019, 12:36 PM | #100 | |
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The 4L80E is a beast.....built for well over 1,000 RWHP. Its basically a Jakes Level 4...... Heavier does not always mean it'll slow it down.....I think it'll be faster. |
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07-03-2019, 03:36 PM | #101 | |
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Devil’s always in those unstated details.... I on the other hand swapped from my stock tranny to my Stage 5 and had about a 50hp documented loss in power to the rear wheels. Maybe because that’s even stronger and heavier than a “basically” Jake’s level 4, but pretty sure they (built 4L80E) would all be a net loss from stock. On that I’d put money. Last edited by Vanishing Point; 07-03-2019 at 04:05 PM. |
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07-03-2019, 06:56 PM | #102 | |
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So I'm thinking like something you mentioned.....the 4L80E will perform better because its just better. And gearing is different.... A few friends who did the 4L80E swap reported better performance all around...... |
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07-03-2019, 07:44 PM | #103 |
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I immediately adjusted back up for it by adding meth injection. So when I got it back it was very close to the same power. It was so much more smooth though. It previously jerked to the right when getting on it. That was gone. It was also just “tighter” for lack of a better word. It was straight, smooth and reactive, with no play and less shifting. First time it felt like a race car. It’s definitely a worthy investment I’m happy with. And once you’re built you can always just pump it up to overcome the hp loss.
It just annoys me to see Magnusson run stock tranny at 1000+rwhp for a power test. It’s deceptive. Another 50hp attributed to their blower that can’t really be experienced by anybody for more than one run, before you break it like they did. |
07-10-2019, 04:52 PM | #104 |
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Today marks two full months since mrvenicess took his Camaro in for Harrop installation. Still excitedly waiting patiently for results.
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07-10-2019, 09:56 PM | #105 | |
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Yes...things come up....but not months of things......LOL |
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07-11-2019, 07:11 AM | #106 | |
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07-11-2019, 03:09 PM | #107 | |
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I wonder what intake Fountain used during their dyno tuning......I would just use that same intake. It was probably a $300 Victor Jr. Is the sensor issue because you're using a different PCM than the one Fountain used? If they had the engine up and running, I would assume you would use all those same sensors and PCM. |
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03-27-2020, 09:52 PM | #108 |
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So does anybody know if Magnuson built a Gen5 under the hood 2650 unit yet?
MrVenicess, did you ever get a rwhp run on your Harrop? |
03-27-2020, 11:41 PM | #109 | |
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https://kongperformance.com/collections/kong-tvs-2650
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2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.
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03-28-2020, 12:11 AM | #110 | |
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Ford makes Mustangs that go down the road. GM makes Camaros. Once we know that, we can look at them both to determine we don’t want that Coyote crap because we have options. Just trying to determine if Maggie is an option. Then determine if they’re better. There’s a lot of talk that they have super cold IATs. I didn’t marry the first girl that gave me nookie Last edited by Vanishing Point; 03-28-2020 at 12:21 AM. |
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03-28-2020, 12:23 AM | #111 | |
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03-28-2020, 10:15 AM | #112 |
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The Kong does not come with a lid. You would need an OEM lid (good luck!), a DSX lid, or wait on the release of the Kong lid (rumored to be about $2k but has a massive, dual pass heat exchanger).
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