10-27-2009, 02:35 PM | #1 |
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Downshifting into second...new Camaro owner/standard driver
Hey guys,
I have had my LT for about 3 weeks and i have picked up standard pretty well, I just have one problem and a question for you guys. When in third, and downshifting into second, its extremely jerky sometimes so I have started doing a single clutch downshift and that has helped alot...but its still relatively jerky. Is this because im possibly going to fast? It usually happens when I am slowing down, approaching a light and shifting into second at about 40 hm/h (while doing the rev-match). Is this too fast and possibly causing the jerkyness?
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10-27-2009, 03:08 PM | #2 |
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What are you doing if you're NOT doing a single clutch downshift? Double clutching?
I like to blip (quick press) on the throttle as I'm downshifting. It attempts to match the engine with the higher RPMs you will have once you downshift. Sounds like you might already be doing that though... Very easy to do on my motorcycle, but takes some practice on the car.
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10-27-2009, 03:11 PM | #3 |
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Yeah thats what I have been doing, blipping the gas before the downshift..works like a charm, no jerk at all in any other gear besides second. I dont usually downshift into first so i cant say for that gear but all the others seem fine.
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10-27-2009, 06:50 PM | #4 |
Hi CamK18
Quote: "When in third, and downshifting into second, its extremely jerky sometimes so I have started doing a single clutch downshift and that has helped alot...but its still relatively jerky." Yeah, single-clutch downshift is the way to go. Double-clutching not required. You should not be using the transmission for slowing anyway. Downshift when you need the lower gear in order to accelerate. Use the brakes for slowing. Brake pads are cheaper than transmission repairs. Remember, the lower gears (1st and 2nd) are comparatively steep, so try waiting till you have slowed more than for the higher gears before shifting. Make sure you have rev-matched before releasing the clutch. Practise makes perfect. Cheers. |
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10-27-2009, 06:54 PM | #5 |
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i usually hold my shifter next to the gear when i drop down, push the clutch in until it falls into the lower gear, and slowly let off the clutch. just takes practice man, hell i'm 17 and i've got this thing about down pat. took me about a month.
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10-28-2009, 09:54 AM | #6 |
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When you are going to that low of gear you don't have much momentum and if you aren't perfectly matched in revs, these "lightweight" cars with high hp/tq engines will do thier own thing and jerk you around until it's found the right speed.
I don't even bother trying to downshift into second unless i'm barely rolling from third..........unless I'm coming up to a tunnel or something!!
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10-28-2009, 01:35 PM | #7 |
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I did what you guys all said and im starting to get better..thanks guys!
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10-28-2009, 02:15 PM | #8 |
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What's with double clutching. Haven't had to do that since the Model T was out!
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10-28-2009, 08:43 PM | #9 |
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idk what the hell double clutching is. i try to rev match my gears when downshifting, if that's double clutchin,i guess i do it alot then. lol.
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10-29-2009, 01:01 AM | #10 |
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big no no my friend... by doing this your slipping the clutch . This isn't as big of any issue on the stock clutch but if you plan upgrading you may want to change your technique.
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10-29-2009, 08:41 AM | #11 | |
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10-29-2009, 10:57 PM | #12 |
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I feel the same way and experience the same jerkiness.
For one I am not used to this driveline and I have other cars that Rev to 9000RPM and I can downshift at 4-5k RPM safely because the engines RPM will spike higher and not be a huge deal. The Camaro is a not happy doing that. I tried downshifting on the Camro from 3-4500 RPM and it locks the rear up and skids dangerously. Going from 4th to 3rd, or 3rd to 2nd and were talking speed below 60MPH Driving this car is an entirely new experience because its so unrefined compared to other cars I have and owned. I do hope things get better. |
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10-31-2009, 02:34 AM | #14 |
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i read this and was thinking say your rounding out a turn on a track or entrance ramp and you start to accelerate out the turn and your in a higher gear and your in the lower rpms where your not quite in the power band yet then you slip your clutch and give it gas to get the rpms up into the power band then feather the clutch out and haul ass ; well i thought that was double clutching . been racing dirt bikes & cars forever it gets your back tires spinning good in a higher gear so you can accelerate longer in one gear instead of having to shift so much, every second counts.
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