11-24-2022, 12:26 PM | #1 |
Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Port Charlotte, FL
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Cooling/Plumbing Mods and Questions
I moved to SWFL this summer and bought a 2013 ZL1 Convertible A6. I have loved the car, and now I’m ready to start some tasteful modifications.
In the next year I will send the supercharger to Kong Performance for porting, rebuild, solid isolator, and pulley swap. I’m thinking 3.86 ratio. I have a set of ARH 1-7/8 headers in the garage and a set of catless mid pipes coming. ID 1050 injectors and a NW 103 tb with Roto fab cai round out my planned mods. Cooling mods are a necessity living down here, besides the extra heat from the modifications. I’m thinking of the Weapon X HX with fans, bmr supercharger tank, and pierburg cwa400 pump, 160 degree stat, with a welded brick. My car is 99% street driven, but spirited when possible. Should I upgrade plumbing to 12-AN and add a spacer to the supercharger? Would there be an issue doing the cooling mods with cai before tuning? I know a full tune will be required when I pull the blower and do the rest of the mods. Fortunately, Tampa is an hour and a half away. |
11-24-2022, 04:20 PM | #2 |
Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018
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I have the afco HX with fans. I’m sure the weapon x one is good also. The cwa400 is over kill unless your doing a ice box in the trunk. The zl1 pump is a good pump. A good replacement pump is the cwa100 flows good. Look at the dedicated motor sports Reservoir 2 gallon talk with 12an fittings.
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22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 1300/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.
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11-24-2022, 06:28 PM | #3 |
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I looked hard at the Afco. Grew up with my dad racing circle track, so always liked/used the brand. Ultimately, upgrading all the plumbing to 12-An and a bit of a price break makes me lean weapon x.
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11-24-2022, 06:31 PM | #4 |
Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018
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I just removed my afco for a Interchiller
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22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 1300/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.
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11-24-2022, 06:37 PM | #5 | |
Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Aug 2022
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11-24-2022, 07:32 PM | #6 |
Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018
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Not even close to maxing out the 850’s but i spray 1450cc of methanol on full boost. 1050 are a good start. If i ran E85 they would be way too small
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22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 1300/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.
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11-24-2022, 08:17 PM | #7 |
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Once I send the blower out to be ported and get a tune and data, we’ll see if meth or e85 is warranted. I eyeballed a spacer from weapon x. Just didn’t think I was there yet.
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11-25-2022, 09:27 AM | #8 |
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I’ve got ported blower and heads but running e-85 so I’ve got fore triple l4 system w-ID1300’s - running afco hx w/ fans aswell as an 6 gal ice trunk tank with emp pump ..
If I recall I’m only running 40-50% duty cycle at wot .
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791whp 699 ft lbs torque on E30 - ported sc /heads by boost mode racing - PAT G cam /Tune
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11-25-2022, 10:13 AM | #9 |
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E85 works really well on a ZL1 with a good fuel pump or DSX aux pump, sensor and the ID1050X injectors you should pick up 40-90HP depending on your other modifications and help cool the intake charge.. The ID1050X should support about 800WHP on E85 but you will be maxed out-running a kittle lower content and you would be fine.
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11-25-2022, 06:52 PM | #10 |
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What is the reason or advantage of AN plumbing for the intercooler? Low pressure coolant.
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11-25-2022, 07:07 PM | #11 |
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No advantage to an vs push lock. Advantage is going with a bigger diameter hose. Stock hose is 5/8” i just re-plumbed mine in 3/4” push lock hose. Bigger hose less restriction to flow.
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22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 1300/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.
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11-25-2022, 07:33 PM | #12 |
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Exactly. Though when I read, AN is worth about 10% extra flow over rubber.
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11-25-2022, 08:52 PM | #13 |
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The AN is just the fitting. Still going to have all rubber lines. If you actually look at a 12an hose fitting the inside diameter is still 5/8” that’s why i went with 3/4” push lock fittings instead.
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22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 1300/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.
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11-25-2022, 09:39 PM | #14 | |
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Thus far my bottleneck appears to be the brick itself. I will have it welded. I haven’t read of a true upgrade for that thus far. |
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