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dudamota · 09-05-2025, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

Here is a cool video about those same subframe solid mounts, I have them and love how solid it made the entire rearend. They were originally made by Pfadt Engineering, but were bought out by the AFE company.

Hi. So do you have already it in your car right ? For sure I can see on the video it will make solid the entire rear end. But how about normally daily drive ? When you hit dumps in the road ? Is it confortable using in daily drive ?Like I said, I am worried about how confortable is it for daily drives.

Is there any other option to suggest ?
Maybe this one =

https://ebay.us/m/3N1qb1

Joe.G · 09-05-2025, 08:29 AM

Don't do the inserts, do the solid without a doubt, Daily driving they will be fine and if you are tracking your car I would say they are a must have. I would get all of the rear suspension parts ad drop the cradle once.
If I was you I would be looking at Lower control arms, Adjustable toe rods upper control arm mounts, Trailing arms, Sway bars and shocks/springs or coil overs.

Front suspension has a little less to change, But still has some things to be addressed. Skip the wing and splitter for now and get suspension sorted.

SS_Dave · 09-05-2025, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudamota

Hi. So do you have already it in your car right ? For sure I can see on the video it will make solid the entire rear end. But how about normally daily drive ? When you hit dumps in the road ? Is it confortable using in daily drive ?Like I said, I am worried about how confortable is it for daily drives.

Is there any other option to suggest ?
Maybe this one =

https://ebay.us/m/3N1qb1

There are a variety of people with solid cradle bushings. It is not the primary thing that absorbs bumps in the suspension at all. Jewel has them and has been happy. I have BMR poly bushings in mine along with various other BMR parts and it's good for daily, no problem. I chose the poly bushings in part because I decided to match the BMR poly I have in the diff and other areas.

1JEWLDSSRS · 09-05-2025, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudamota

Hi. So do you have already it in your car right ? For sure I can see on the video it will make solid the entire rear end. But how about normally daily drive ? When you hit dumps in the road ? Is it confortable using in daily drive ?Like I said, I am worried about how confortable is it for daily drives.

Is there any other option to suggest ?
Maybe this one =

https://ebay.us/m/3N1qb1

Hey there, again, lol. So yeah the solid cradle mounts in a daily driver won't be a problem, I daily drove mine for about 5-6 years with them. The only thing you will notice is more road noise with them from the rear. Nothing major. The bumps in the road won't be affected by them, your shocks will take care of that, no difference in the ride. My Camaro is lowerded 1.25 all the way around on Pfadt springs and is very comfortable to cruise in! I really like them. I got them on recomendation from From the guys at JDP Motorsports, they do a lot of track racing with Camaros and vettes, they know their stuff so to speak. And as mentioned by the other guys here, get your suspension good first, then do the spoiler and splitter. Gotta get the car handling great before you can go fast!

SS_Dave · 09-05-2025, 10:00 AM

As an aside, if you're worried about bad roads yet being good for track, you may want to consider a good coilover setup. Then you can be adjustable.

dudamota · 09-05-2025, 10:28 AM

I am really thinking about buying the

"aFe for Control PFADT Series Subframe Mount Set"

as you guys saying for daily drive is not that bad and for track is really good.

I will drop my cradle to upgrade other parts already, so why not buy it now.

But just to say, that or me is kind expensive as difference in currency from REAL x USD is almost 6 times.

For now I can't afford anything else. Unfortunelly.

But just for refence in the future upgrades, about =

"Lower control arms, Adjustable toe rods upper control arm mounts, Trailing arms, Sway bars and shocks/springs or coil overs. "

If is not asking too much, can you guys link those parts ?

Thank you again so much for all the replies and tips.

I really appreciated.

Maybe here = https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...=17&superpro=0

???

dudamota · 09-05-2025, 10:37 AM

Just to inform that I just bought "aFe for Control PFADT Series Subframe Mount Set"

Lets make my Twin Turbo a RACE CAR .. kakakakka

dudamota · 09-05-2025, 10:39 AM

Here I was when my Camaro was NA

https://youtu.be/IpHGwudyTm8?si=z86S0cY_h1ucC32s

Joe.G · 09-05-2025, 02:29 PM

My suggestions,
These should be done when you drop cradle as they are hard to get in with cradle up.
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...171&superpro=0

Next two go together
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...487&superpro=0
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...460&superpro=0

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...483&superpro=0

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...164&superpro=0

I run the non adjustable Lower control arms, but if I had to do it again I would get the adjustable ones as I had a hard time getting alignment specs I wanted. I would get the camber bolts if you go non adjustable.

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...989&superpro=0
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...d=77&catid=423

Front radius rod insert
https://pedders.com/products/ep6578-...maro-2010-2015

Then you have top decide what shocks/springs or coil overs you want to run.
There are also more track oriented options that run different ends instead of poly bushings but you will lose street ride quality. There are also other companies besides the links I posted but I believe they have a quality product at a fair price. This is where I would start there is more to do but this would b a good start.

dudamota · 09-05-2025, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe.G

My suggestions,
These should be done when you drop cradle as they are hard to get in with cradle up.
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...171&superpro=0

Next two go together
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...487&superpro=0
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...460&superpro=0

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...483&superpro=0

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...164&superpro=0

I run the non adjustable Lower control arms, but if I had to do it again I would get the adjustable ones as I had a hard time getting alignment specs I wanted. I would get the camber bolts if you go non adjustable.

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...989&superpro=0
https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...d=77&catid=423

Front radius rod insert
https://pedders.com/products/ep6578-...maro-2010-2015

Then you have top decide what shocks/springs or coil overs you want to run.
There are also more track oriented options that run different ends instead of poly bushings but you will lose street ride quality. There are also other companies besides the links I posted but I believe they have a quality product at a fair price. This is where I would start there is more to do but this would b a good start.

I can say for sure if I have that money, I will get all the parts suggested.
But I already spent too much money.

For now it will be =

01-)Kit 6 Hydraulic Bushings Shaft Sleeve
02-)Kit 2 Bushings for Rear Suspension Balance Tray
03-)aFe for Control PFADT Series Subframe Mount Set Orange
04-)Polyurethane Rear Control Arm Bushings UPPER

Near Future =

01-)BMR STB017H Hammertone 11-15 Camaro Strut Tower Brace 2-point
https://ebay.us/m/HbMic7

02-)Hotchkis Performance 20104 Chassis Max Handle Bars Fits
https://ebay.us/m/OsX323

Long Future = All parts suggested by Joe G.

Joe.G · 09-05-2025, 08:33 PM

I would get UCA bushing now if you are dropping cradle for solid bushings everything else can be don with cradle in car.

dudamota · 09-06-2025, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe.G

I would get UCA bushing now if you are dropping cradle for solid bushings everything else can be don with cradle in car.

Hi, can you link that ? UCA bushing

Joe.G · 09-06-2025, 08:01 AM

I did it is in the first link with the note to install while cradle is down.

dudamota · 09-06-2025, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe.G

I did it is in the first link with the note to install while cradle is down.

Ak Ok... Thanks

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...171&superpro=0

BK039 - Bushing Kit, Rear, Upper Control Arm, Delrin

Not much expensive..

So this is a REALLY good upgrade right ?
Is this part will work with my standard Camaro suspension or shoul I also have to buy other BRM Suspension part to work with ??

09-05-2025, 08:29 AM	#16
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,655	Don't do the inserts, do the solid without a doubt, Daily driving they will be fine and if you are tracking your car I would say they are a must have. I would get all of the rear suspension parts ad drop the cradle once. If I was you I would be looking at Lower control arms, Adjustable toe rods upper control arm mounts, Trailing arms, Sway bars and shocks/springs or coil overs. Front suspension has a little less to change, But still has some things to be addressed. Skip the wing and splitter for now and get suspension sorted. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, 6 Piston Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, GC Aluminum DS,Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace, Moroso Catch Can,SCT X4 Dynosteve,Remote Clutch reservoir,Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

09-05-2025, 10:28 AM	#20
dudamota Drives: Twin Turbo 5th gen Camaro Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Brasil Posts: 81	I am really thinking about buying the "aFe for Control PFADT Series Subframe Mount Set" as you guys saying for daily drive is not that bad and for track is really good. I will drop my cradle to upgrade other parts already, so why not buy it now. But just to say, that or me is kind expensive as difference in currency from REAL x USD is almost 6 times. For now I can't afford anything else. Unfortunelly. But just for refence in the future upgrades, about = "Lower control arms, Adjustable toe rods upper control arm mounts, Trailing arms, Sway bars and shocks/springs or coil overs. " If is not asking too much, can you guys link those parts ? Thank you again so much for all the replies and tips. I really appreciated. Maybe here = https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...=17&superpro=0 ??? __________________

09-05-2025, 10:37 AM	#21
dudamota Drives: Twin Turbo 5th gen Camaro Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Brasil Posts: 81	Just to inform that I just bought "aFe for Control PFADT Series Subframe Mount Set" Lets make my Twin Turbo a RACE CAR .. kakakakka __________________

09-05-2025, 10:39 AM	#22
dudamota Drives: Twin Turbo 5th gen Camaro Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Brasil Posts: 81	Here I was when my Camaro was NA https://youtu.be/IpHGwudyTm8?si=z86S0cY_h1ucC32s __________________

09-05-2025, 02:29 PM	#23
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,655	My suggestions, These should be done when you drop cradle as they are hard to get in with cradle up. https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...171&superpro=0 Next two go together https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...487&superpro=0 https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...460&superpro=0 https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...483&superpro=0 https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...164&superpro=0 I run the non adjustable Lower control arms, but if I had to do it again I would get the adjustable ones as I had a hard time getting alignment specs I wanted. I would get the camber bolts if you go non adjustable. https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...989&superpro=0 https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...d=77&catid=423 Front radius rod insert https://pedders.com/products/ep6578-...maro-2010-2015 Then you have top decide what shocks/springs or coil overs you want to run. There are also more track oriented options that run different ends instead of poly bushings but you will lose street ride quality. There are also other companies besides the links I posted but I believe they have a quality product at a fair price. This is where I would start there is more to do but this would b a good start. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, 6 Piston Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, GC Aluminum DS,Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace, Moroso Catch Can,SCT X4 Dynosteve,Remote Clutch reservoir,Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

09-05-2025, 10:00 AM	#19
SS_Dave Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 501	As an aside, if you're worried about bad roads yet being good for track, you may want to consider a good coilover setup. Then you can be adjustable.

09-05-2025, 08:33 PM	#25
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,655	I would get UCA bushing now if you are dropping cradle for solid bushings everything else can be don with cradle in car. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, 6 Piston Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, GC Aluminum DS,Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace, Moroso Catch Can,SCT X4 Dynosteve,Remote Clutch reservoir,Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

09-06-2025, 08:01 AM	#27
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,655	I did it is in the first link with the note to install while cradle is down. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, 6 Piston Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, GC Aluminum DS,Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace, Moroso Catch Can,SCT X4 Dynosteve,Remote Clutch reservoir,Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.