CAMARO NEWS

[DDA_Skull]

I love the interior. But I do wish it was atleast the soft material like in the Malibu or Caddy's.

[Enator]

Originally Posted by speed330i

A new interior would certainly be welcome news. I recognize everyone has their own opinions, but IMO while the Camaro's exterior design has been almost universally defined as "sex incarnate", the Camaro's interior has been equally panned.

My biggest complaint is the quality of the interior. The plastic looks especially cheap (although the leather looked pretty good). Its been a long time since any car manufacturer put out an interior with as cheap looking plastics as Chevy has. Even Hyundai has a better interior for god's sake.

In GM's defense though, they really aren't in a position right now to start decreasing their margins by adding higher quality parts. Another thing that hurts the Camaro is that they have several models at different price points. Each model has to share the same interior, so really, the cheapest entry level model is dragging down the quality of the higher grade models.

I really wish that GM only offered the Camaro in the SS trim and maybe increased the base price by a few thousand dollars and improved the quality of the car.

Why is it that Cadillac can build and sell $60K cars, but Camaro can't?

I guess if it had a base of $45M, the Camaro would no longer be a traditional pony car (which has historically been touted as affordable performance for the masses).

Still, can you imagine the Camaro's exterior with a Caddy's interior! That would give BMW a run for their money.

Till then, I guess I'll have to wait until next year to see what interior changes are made.

Martin

Thanks man
I have been asking people on Mustang forums why they buy Mustang not Camaro? And all of them said interior interior interior

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The sales numbers for $60k Camaros would be really low.

Unless you had to have 4 seats the Corvette would be a hell of a lot more bang for the buck if the Camaro was that expensive.

where's a 60k camaro? as far as I know there isn't one unless you're counting dealer mark-ups. or possible dealer mark-ups on a 48-50k camaro. . .

[Mungo]

Originally Posted by speed330i

A new interior would certainly be welcome news. I recognize everyone has their own opinions, but IMO while the Camaro's exterior design has been almost universally defined as "sex incarnate", the Camaro's interior has been equally panned.

My biggest complaint is the quality of the interior. The plastic looks especially cheap (although the leather looked pretty good). Its been a long time since any car manufacturer put out an interior with as cheap looking plastics as Chevy has. Even Hyundai has a better interior for god's sake.

In GM's defense though, they really aren't in a position right now to start decreasing their margins by adding higher quality parts. Another thing that hurts the Camaro is that they have several models at different price points. Each model has to share the same interior, so really, the cheapest entry level model is dragging down the quality of the higher grade models.

I really wish that GM only offered the Camaro in the SS trim and maybe increased the base price by a few thousand dollars and improved the quality of the car.

Why is it that Cadillac can build and sell $60K cars, but Camaro can't?

I guess if it had a base of $45M, the Camaro would no longer be a traditional pony car (which has historically been touted as affordable performance for the masses).

Still, can you imagine the Camaro's exterior with a Caddy's interior! That would give BMW a run for their money.

Till then, I guess I'll have to wait until next year to see what interior changes are made.

Martin

Totally agree better quality materials are needed. The Corvette has always recived great reviews when compared to Porche's and other supercars, but has always lost first place due to interior quality and flimsy seats. You can see from the Impala, Cadillacs and now the Buicks that GM has started to put their money into interior materials. There is something wrong when a Hyudai has better quality materials than a Camaro. Competing with Ford who is putting alot of effort into Nav/radio electronics, it is only competitive to do the same. The Mustang started out with a retro look, but had to develope. So should the camaro.

They should also rethink the clutch, rear axles and slave/ brake cylinder combo that people have complained about on this forum.

[camarolt76]

I am perfectly happy with my interior, but I am glad to see that GM has some new items to keep each of the next 2 years model releases relevant. Convertable in 2011, and new interior and Z28 in 2012!

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

where's a 60k camaro? as far as I know there isn't one unless you're counting dealer mark-ups. or possible dealer mark-ups on a 48-50k camaro. . .

Their are none. I made that comment in response to the poster saying they need to use higher quality interiors and other parts and sell the Camaro at the $60k price range.

I was saying the Camaro would not sell well in that price range.

[ttexxan]

I love the interior on the camaro.....Its a muscle car!!!!! Not to be confused with a caddy lux car. I would not like a dash like some of the above. Dont get me wrong great for some things, but make the camaro look like a drag queen on the inside. Little touches here and there would be nice like the new concept shifter, new option for nav and higher quality plastic.

[GameOver620]

This is the news I have been waiting for. I held off on the 2010 because of the interior and waited for the 2011 changes to see if anything substantial would change. Now that the 2012 is going to have the hopeful change I've been looking for I'm going to have to wait till then

[Vega]

yeah just to get my thoughts out there on the subject the Z/28 was always top, 1st and 2nd gen had Z/28 a step above SS, most people say the Z was a handling performance car and the SS was a strip monster, not entirely true as the Zs were almost always under-rated in power due to whatever racing series they were entered in and actually out-powered the SS while also out-handling so it was all around better. As for the 4th gens i thnik GM just used the same formula as the 3rd gens but once SLP got on board they had nothing to call their upgraded model, the only logical name (although contradictory) was SS. Open and shut case lol.

The interior now is another story. Personally im fine with it, i preffer plain interiors on muscle cars, they keep costs down. Im getting really annoyed at this new muscle/luxury trend its making muscle cars rediculously expensive when the whole IDEA of the muscle car is affordable performance. They're anything but these days. So what? We're gonna get an upgraded dash and higher quality materials, both of which will most likely jack the price up, no thanks. Im quite happy with the current interior i think its magnificent, in fact its a little above what it probly should be. The fact is muscle cars are meant for that happy medium between creature-comfort and price, its not supposed to sacrifice all price for comfort. If you want a higher class interior, a more interesting dash for the passenger (honestly? now we're just nit-picking), and the same performance, go buy the CTS-V, thats what its there for anyways right?....right?...leave the Camaro a stripped down muscle car, enough of the on-screen-nav argument, luxury seats, HUD, 18-speaker stereos, keyless entry, remote start, and thats just a few to name off. Not everyone wants all these rediculous commadities and not everyone should have to pay for all that crap just cause a percent of customers wanna confuse "Camaro" with "Cadillac." We're looking for performance after all, not luxury, right? Hell the Camaro's already the most expensive of the three anyways.

Now grace me with your lame sleepy-eyed guy holding the microsoft word logo =P

[jrc1122]

Hyundai does a pretty good job offering more upscale interior for a lesser price. Exterior is competitive with the market as well. Power is on par with the market that their cars compete with..

So the money argument is baseless. GM could have put a much nicer interior in the Camaro especially for a price upwards of $38K+ (optioned out)

[The 2010 Sin]

im glad the Z/28 is gonna be the one to have again.. stay the way it was the 4th gen screwed everyone up thinking it was always the faster.. Tisk tisk tisk children.. the Z/28 was the beast

[Vega]

I dont believe it the interior argument has no base. I mean if they can offer a higher quality interior without raising the price one penny more power too them, and i honestly believe if anyone can do it GM can. I just dont wanna see another 2 or 3 grand tacked on because people want rediculous luxury in their Camarillac. I would like to see a new shifter piece for both auto and manual, especially auto, it just seems really cheap to me, the manual is better but id rather have a more solid shifter than the plastic knob yeah?

Hopefully the Z/28 will live up to its namesake. A no-BS performance car. If the Z/28 were stripped down with just a few luxury commadities allowed (such as leather seats or Bose stereo, but no navigation, etc) then i would be perfectly happy loading the SS up with the luxury features. Then you would have your extreme performance variation and your refined performance variation, that i would be very happy with. =)

[nichoLaS9]

Originally Posted by speed330i

My biggest complaint is the quality of the interior. The plastic looks especially cheap (although the leather looked pretty good). Its been a long time since any car manufacturer put out an interior with as cheap looking plastics as Chevy has. Even Hyundai has a better interior for god's sake.

In GM's defense though, they really aren't in a position right now to start decreasing their margins by adding higher quality parts. Another thing that hurts the Camaro is that they have several models at different price points. Each model has to share the same interior, so really, the cheapest entry level model is dragging down the quality of the higher grade models.

I really wish that GM only offered the Camaro in the SS trim and maybe increased the base price by a few thousand dollars and improved the quality of the car.

Why is it that Cadillac can build and sell $60K cars, but Camaro can't?


Still, can you imagine the Camaro's exterior with a Caddy's interior! That would give BMW a run for their money.


Martin

Completely agreed. GM seems to put the same dash board materials in EVERY product they make, (yes including Cadillac, although additional leather, wood grain, etc. make the Caddys much more appealing).

Its disappointing, although at this point in GM's 'recovery' I guess I cant get too mad, but its been happening for way too long, and IMHO its an eye sore and a let-down to an otherwise great looking car. I love the gauges and other retro cues, but material quality has become an important factor in my car purchasing decision process, and may just be enough to make me hold out till '12

p.s. a $60k Camaro would intrude on 'vette property and ultimately defeat the purpose of the famed pony car, but as you mentioned Hyundai has managed to pull off a task in their $40k+ genesis, so I dont know what gives.

[Enator]

Originally Posted by Vega

....I just dont wanna see another 2 or 3 grand tacked on because people want rediculous luxury in their Camarillac.....

Just don't that people already pay overprice for SS and everybody who is following this forum knows about that.