NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD

[CFD]

Originally Posted by SSMOKINHOT

I use an Omron body fat analyzer. It is a bioelectrical impedance analyzer and only gives you a good estimate your body fat volume and body fat percentage.

I read they have xrays out now that can measure your body fat and they are even more accurate than the hydrostatic testing...but that is too pricey for me and I don't really need that accurate of a measurement for my purposes.

This could be where the problem is, bioelectrical impedance anylizers are the most inaccurate of all. They are greatly affected by hydration as well as many other factors, a good way to see this is take a reading before you go to bed and then again when you wake up, you will most likely have different readings, or take a reading before you take a shower and one after, body fat didn't change taking a shower but I think you will find your readings will differ. There is a very inexpensive fat anylizer called an accumeasure. It is a simple caliper with a little notch molded into it that helps make sure the pressure at the reading site is constant, all though it is not the most accurate way of measuring it is quite consistant and not affected by hydration or other outside factors. This allows for more accurate comparisons

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

When I asked my trainer if he could get my fat pecentage he said ok but we can't just check it now, he said I would have to wait till the next day and not eat or drink anything for like 4 hour or so before he could do the test, needless to say I never had it done because of my tight schedule, but what I'm saying is I don't think anything will give a proper reading unless you go to a fitness trainer (expert) and have it done the "proper" way. I wouldn't worry too much about that, just keep doing what your doing and what makes sense.

I used a compaisson a few posts back using a dyno as refference here is why, you can have two different experts take measurements at the same time using the measuring device and have different readings. It is very user dependant. Normally I believe the best time to take measurements as well as weighing on a scale is when you first wake up in the morning. Your body has had time to digest food, hydration levels have evened out, everyday activities can affect readings but by taking them when you first get up allows for the most consistency. Accuracy in the method taking readings is more important than the numbers as it allows for more accurate comparisons. This is why you must consider all other indicators before relying on any one reading

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by CFD

This could be where the problem is, bioelectrical impedance anylizers are the most inaccurate of all.

oh, don't get me started on this piece of junk that "gives accurate bodyfat percentage". Most people have seen a pic of me.. and that piece of junk always says I'm between 30-35% bodyfat. Really!!!

The best and most accurate way is by weight in water tank

Second, most acceptable way is by calipers and calculations across 6 points on your body.

[Bonnie]

Originally Posted by CFD

I used a compaisson a few posts back using a dyno as refference here is why, you can have two different experts take measurements at the same time using the measuring device and have different readings. It is very user dependant. Normally I believe the best time to take measurements as well as weighing on a scale is when you first wake up in the morning. Your body has had time to digest food, hydration levels have evened out, everyday activities can affect readings but by taking them when you first get up allows for the most consistency. Accuracy in the method taking readings is more important than the numbers as it allows for more accurate comparisons. This is why you must consider all other indicators before relying on any one reading

Yeah, I could be wrong on the exact way he told me, I think he said, when you wake up in the morning you can't eat or drink anything for so many hours, but I'm having it done in a couple of months so I'll let ya'll know exactly what he tells me to do. This man's owned his own gym and held his own competitions for 30 years, so I trust he knows what he's doing!

[CFD]

Here is a photo of two body fat calipers, the one on the right is the accumeasure, the left one is a fat trackII. They both work using the same method used by most experts and are inexpensive. You have heard the old saying to see if your fat "pinch an inch" this is more or less the principle. The fat track beeps when you exert the same pressure to be consistant, using that one you can take measurements in the typical three or five locations, with the accumeasure you use one and I have found no difference in accuracy but the one site method is simple and can accurately be self performed.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

Yeah, I could be wrong on the exact way he told me, I think he said, when you wake up in the morning you can't eat or drink anything for so many hours, but I'm having it done in a couple of months so I'll let ya'll know exactly what he tells me to do. This man's owned his own gym and held his own competitions for 30 years, so I trust he knows what he's doing!

That's why morning readngs are suggested, most normal people don't eat or drink while they're sleeping so it allows for a 6-8 hour fast deppending on sleep habbits.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

oh, don't get me started on this piece of junk that "gives accurate bodyfat percentage". Most people have seen a pic of me.. and that piece of junk always says I'm between 30-35% bodyfat. Really!!!

The best and most accurate way is by weight in water tank

Second, most acceptable way is by calipers and calculations across 6 points on your body.

The reason is bioelectrical measurements send small amounts of electrical current through your body, electricity is greatly affected by water, your muscles are mostly water so when you carry more muscle you carry more water which shows resistance this resistance is perceived to be fat either that or you need to cut drastically LOL.

Water tank measuremeants is hydrostatic measuring and is considered the gold standard but it is not available to the general public without a fee.

Measuremeants 3-point or usually 5-point must be taken with assistance which again depends on the persons skill and is not always practical. I think you will find that the accumeasure I keep mentioning is surprisingly accurate for it's simplicity and price. I know it doesn't look like much but it does work quite well.

[CFD]

Now you guy's did it, you made me break out the fat calipers, I thought I was over that obsession. LOL.

[SSMOKINHOT]

Thanks everyone for your input. I am active duty military and just learned our Health and Wellness Center on base has the Bod Pod. Apparently, it is very similar to the hydrostatic testing except they utilize air displacement. I am going to set up an appointment to get my body fat measured via this method and see what I come up with.

(the below is from http://www.bodpod.com/products/howWorkBodpod)

How It Works
The BOD POD Gold Standard Body Composition Tracking System uses patented Air Displacement Plethysmography for determining percent fat and fat-free mass in adults and children. The simple, 5-minute test consists of measuring the subject's mass (weight) using a very accurate electronic scale, and volume, which is determined by sitting inside the BOD POD chamber. From these two measurements, the subject's body composition is calculated.

The BOD POD consists of two chambers. The front, or Test Chamber, is where the subject sits and is comprised of a seat that forms a common wall separating it from the rear, or Reference Chamber. During the brief data collection period of the volume measurement, the chamber door is secured by a series of electromagnets and a gasket. A Diaphragm is mounted on the common wall, which oscillates during testing. This causes small changes in volume inside the chamber, of which the pressure response to these small volume changes is measured. This is done by measuring the interior volume of the empty BOD POD chamber, then measuring it again when the subject is seated inside. By subtraction, the subject's body volume is obtained. For example, if the interior air volume of the empty chamber is 400 liters, and the volume of the chamber is reduced to 350 liters with the subject inside, the body volume of the subject would be 50 liters.
Once the subject's mass and volume are determined, body density is calculated and the relative proportions of fat and fat-free mass are determined.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by SSMOKINHOT

Thanks everyone for your input. I am active duty military and just learned our Health and Wellness Center on base has the Bod Pod. Apparently, it is very similar to the hydrostatic testing except they utilize air displacement. I am going to set up an appointment to get my body fat measured via this method and see what I come up with.

(the below is from http://www.bodpod.com/products/howWorkBodpod)

How It Works
The BOD POD Gold Standard Body Composition Tracking System uses patented Air Displacement Plethysmography for determining percent fat and fat-free mass in adults and children. The simple, 5-minute test consists of measuring the subject's mass (weight) using a very accurate electronic scale, and volume, which is determined by sitting inside the BOD POD chamber. From these two measurements, the subject's body composition is calculated.

The BOD POD consists of two chambers. The front, or Test Chamber, is where the subject sits and is comprised of a seat that forms a common wall separating it from the rear, or Reference Chamber. During the brief data collection period of the volume measurement, the chamber door is secured by a series of electromagnets and a gasket. A Diaphragm is mounted on the common wall, which oscillates during testing. This causes small changes in volume inside the chamber, of which the pressure response to these small volume changes is measured. This is done by measuring the interior volume of the empty BOD POD chamber, then measuring it again when the subject is seated inside. By subtraction, the subject's body volume is obtained. For example, if the interior air volume of the empty chamber is 400 liters, and the volume of the chamber is reduced to 350 liters with the subject inside, the body volume of the subject would be 50 liters.
Once the subject's mass and volume are determined, body density is calculated and the relative proportions of fat and fat-free mass are determined.

Is this something that is readily available to you

[bossbunny]

Today.

Went to the gym.
40 on the elliptical
15 on the treadmill
2 ab supersets

For breakfast: Toast and boiled egg (180)
Snack: 3/4c of Kashi (140)
Lunch: Lean Cuisine (230)
Snack: Grapes (80)
Dinner: Home made veggie pizza

[CaniacFan]

Going on day three of being sick (stomach thing) for me.. Yuck. Only able to eat oatmeal, soups, SF jello, fruit, etc so far and NO exercise yet - lost 3 lbs but I'm sure it's all water weight loss/dehydration.

I'm encouraged reading all of this positive information though. Can't wait to get a little more strength.

[JoeP@TeamBeckyD]

Updated Post #2....



I'm back from Vegas and ..

I lost a lot of....


($$)

I stayed on track...and

had sensible meals...
and walked alot!!

[rtcat600man]

Welcome home. Sorry to hear about the $$. Guess we need to find a few more Camaro buyers to send your way.