MOTORTREND Head 2 Head (more in-depth look from Inde) -ZL1 TAKES ON BOSS VIDEO :D

[Mr Twisty]

I think Ford is beating a dead horse till they redesign the car.

[Black5thgen]

Puppy kicking, the ZL1 has 140 more HP.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Puppy kicking, the ZL1 has 140 more HP.

Yep it's all about HP.....

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Puppy kicking, the ZL1 has 140 more HP.

The horsepower to weight ratio is the more significant statistic when it comes to performance, rather than simply pure horsepower alone.

[kiteman]

Originally Posted by ifiwasperfect

I feel like the new GT500 vs ZL1 comparison is the most anticipated head to head in a very long time!

+1

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I think Ford is beating a dead horse till they redesign the car.

the BOSS is a badass car for the money. if you can spend a few extra thousand and aren't a tall mofo that needs an adjustable steering wheel, i think the BOSS is an easy choice. the red accents annoy me though.

ZL1 obviously trumps it, but then again it's nearly 15k more expensive and IMO in a different class altogether.

[camarowa]

Originally Posted by Comrando

My calculator says $7,895

Boss is low 40s compared to mid/high 50s zl1

[IOMZL1]

Originally Posted by camarowa

Boss is low 40s compared to mid/high 50s zl1

MSRP of the 2012 Boss Laguna Seca was $48,100. Many of these were marked up as well.

[YourBlindingBias]

MSRP of the boss is 40,9995 it's the LS that is 48k.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by IOMZL1

MSRP of the 2012 Boss Laguna Seca was $48,100. Many of these were marked up as well.

true BUT I know for a fact I can get a Boss LS for MSRP at a dealer 1 mile from me....and also know for a fact the ZL1s are also marked up in many places...$10k at dealers 5 miles, 20 miles, 30 miles, 35 miles... from me and $15k at one 60 miles from me.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I think Ford is beating a dead horse till they redesign the car.

Yes - however - I still can't not give them credit for the achievements they've made. I don't know that they can do everything with one car, like ZL1 appears to be able to (I really won't pass judgement until more tests are conducted by familiar reviewers under more favorable conditions), however, they've shown they can make Mustang handle great and show that it applies a huge amount of power in a straight line respectibly.

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Puppy kicking, the ZL1 has 140 more HP.

Right... Here we go again...

Originally Posted by IOMZL1

MSRP of the 2012 Boss Laguna Seca was $48,100. Many of these were marked up as well.

I think many people don't realize how close the price of these two really are. Good call.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

true BUT I know for a fact I can get a Boss LS for MSRP at a dealer 1 mile from me....and also know for a fact the ZL1s are also marked up in many places...$10k at dealers 5 miles, 20 miles, 30 miles, 35 miles... from me and $15k at one 60 miles from me.

Where? Sullivan or Kuni? Wait - are you in Nor Cal?

[YourBlindingBias]

Originally Posted by radz28

Yes - however - I still can't not give them credit for the achievements they've made. I don't know that they can do everything with one car, like ZL1 appears to be able to (I really won't pass judgement until more tests are conducted by familiar reviewers under more favorable conditions), however, they've shown they can make Mustang handle great and show that it applies a huge amount of power in a straight line respectibly.



Right... Here we go again...



I think many people don't realize how close the price of these two really are. Good call.

According to alot of the forum from what I have read the ZL1 is not built for the strip, so can it really do EVERYTHING? (I don't agree that it wasn't made for the strip because it has a "drag launch" feature lol)

[Black5thgen]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

The horsepower to weight ratio is the more significant statistic when it comes to performance, rather than simply pure horsepower alone.

I don't know if you were around the car scene about 10 years ago when GM was waxing the mustang with the LS engine and then ford had to supercharge the cobra so it could compete. GM guys made sure it was known that the pony needed boost. Well now chevy needs a bigger motor and boost and we're supposed to be impressed when it beats a cheaper, less displacement N/A car that has a straight axle?? This is a reverse when the GT500 was tested against the SS. Everyone here cried it wasn't fair, which is wasn't, but now that the shoe is on the other foot the ZL1 is a mustang killer and a kick ass car. Come on.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by YourBlindingBias

According to alot of the forum from what I have read the ZL1 is not built for the strip, so can it really do EVERYTHING? (I don't agree that it wasn't made for the strip because it has a "drag launch" feature lol)

Just because you don't agree doesn't make it truth. Considering the mass of the differential and the rest of the drivetrain components (many of which we still don't know all the technical details of), I'd say they made sure to make ZL1 capable at the strip. Why advertise it like they have for the strip?

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

I don't know if you were around the car scene about 10 years ago when GM was waxing the mustang with the LS engine and then ford had to supercharge the cobra so it could compete. GM guys made sure it was known that the pony needed boost. Well now chevy needs a bigger motor and boost and we're supposed to be impressed when it beats a cheaper, less displacement N/A car that has a straight axle?? This is a reverse when the GT500 was tested against the SS. Everyone here cried it wasn't fair, which is wasn't, but now that the shoe is on the other foot the ZL1 is a mustang killer and a kick ass car. Come on.

Just because you refuse to take the entire car into consideration doesn't make you correct. You are suggesting the only reason ZL1 beat the LS is because of the power. Go back and reread the review; if that doesn't work, consider a course in comprehension. There were only two corners the LS made a little time on ZL1; the rest of the time it was pulling away; the only time ZL1 pulled away from pure power was the straight, where they had telemetry and data that showed it only gained .4 of a second. Considering the total lap time difference, ZL1 was still ahead, without power as the strength, by 2.5 seconds.

Let's not forget the competition tires LS rides on either. ZL1 is riding on max' performance tires - not competition tires. Those will grip better than the G2s. But that doesn't matter either... Neither does the significant amount of weight advantage the LS has, too.