2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[Betiwin]

"supposed" leaked numbers from road Atlanta 3.7 0-60 from ford

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by Betiwin

"supposed" leaked numbers from road Atlanta 3.7 from ford

3.7 what? Lap time? 0-60? And what does the ZL1 do?

[BigHemiSrt]

Gotcha!! That is insane for that blower!! Thats y i find it hard to believe claims of 700rwhp with the ZL1's 1.9L.

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

The TVS also gets alot more low end TQ too.

Personally I'd say that's a point in the whipples favor, even stock the low end torque is a handful.

[ffrcobra_65]

The GT500 is faster in straight line race against the ZL1. It's a dead horse. Roadcourse next.

[Ron66Vette&10SS]

Originally Posted by Sweet Zness

IMan I want a Z, because its just damn sexier, and mean as hell looking. I've owned a few Camaro's in my lifetime and have never even thought about a Mustang. But Ill be damned if Im not now. Forget track packs Ill never use them. For 56K and no gas guzzler. It has my attention.

I'm in the same boat as you. I've owned 3 Corvettes and 6 Camaros, with a couple each of Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles thrown in. NOTHING BUT GM and and NEVER considered a Mustang.......that is until the '13 Shelby was announced.

As much as LOVE the look of the ZL1, I'm dissapointed as hell in its stock straight-line performance. I could "settle" for the look of the Shelby as long as it solidly runs in the 11's, but I won't "settle" for a ZL1 that struggles to even get into the low 12's...even if it does look MUCH better in my opinion. Unless the ZL1 were to magically (or should I say miraculously?) get a bump of 100hp or more from GM, I don't see one in my future :(.

I'm waiting a bit longer to see how the C7 Corvette looks (without the camo) and performs before I make my final decision, but more than likely my next vehicle will either be a low mileage C6 Z06 or a new Shelby.

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

I hate to burst your bubble, but it was DBK on SVTP. Like I said about 2 pages ago, he's also on Shelby Forums, and has met with Jamal Hameedi in person before. He ALWAYS has inside information. He's the one who confirmed that the '13 had a press day at Road Atlanta yesterday. He has never been wrong, not once.

The car went 11.52 @ 127 MPH and that's a fact. This thing is a beast, there's undeniable fact behind it.

I have no doubt as to whether it was true or not. I only pointed out it wasn't ran in ATL yesterday with the environment they dealt with. We don't know (at this time) what the conditions were when the car ran the 11.52,as far as DA,temps,etc.

And you are correct.....the thing is a beast.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

Personally I'd say that's a point in the whipples favor, even stock the low end torque is a handful.

This is true. LOL. It will be easy to even spin at 60 mph with drag radials.
But, thats always fun. I can pedal it like John Force.

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Isnt it a 2.3 that comes on the 2013? And isnt it about 16psi from the factory? Im guessing the 2013 will dyno around 550-580rwhp. So how will this blower make 650rwhp at 17psi? Just curious.

2013 GT500 makes 15psi. The 5.8 also has a a higher compression ratio than the 5.4 in the 07-12.

Ford Racing sells a TVS kit that makes about 11psi for the 07-09 GT500. It comes with a very safe tune from Ford. It put down 605rwhp according to this article.
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...r/viewall.html
They also make a 660hp kit for the 2010 GT500. I believe it's the same boost but with a little more aggressive tune since the 2010 has knock sensors.

If the TVS can make 600rwhp on a 5.4 with 11psi, imagine what it can make on a 5.8 with 15psi.

[tt335ci03cobra]

Side by side comparison should be out in June; so excited

[tt335ci03cobra]

Originally Posted by radz28

Whoever claims I don't know this guy is someone who doesn't need to be here. I know fully
who Mr. Smith is and give him complete respect. When Mr. Smith runs a number and says that's it - I take is like the Good Lord said it.

I knew Mr. Smith as someone who would drive the sh1t out of a
car. I would not give that trust to most anyone else.

Not your finest moment considering nobody else questioned my info from dbk and most agree he's very credible.

Research trumps brash disrespect. Id suggest you channel anger to the pr and marketing department that keeps running the zl1 program through the mud by sticking to the stock tires 1.60 60ft 11.90's claim.

It's shamefully and completely rude to the zl1 engineers who have made an incredible car that is then subject to prejudice that is caused by boastful public relations teams that these engineers have 0 control over. That to me is a definite insult to the intelligent hard workers behind the zl1 and requisitely worthy of contempt.

Thanks for the rude post and good day.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

Not your finest moment considering nobody else questioned my info from dbk and most agree he's very credible.

Research trumps brash disrespect. Id suggest you channel anger to the pr and marketing department that keeps running the zl1 program through the mud by sticking to the stock tires 1.60 60ft 11.90's claim.

It's shamefully and completely rude to the zl1 engineers who have made an incredible car that is then subject to prejudice that is caused by boastful public relations teams that these engineers have 0 control over. That to me is a definite insult to the intelligent hard workers behind the zl1 and requisitely worthy of contempt.

Thanks for the rude post and good day.

Sounds like he was saying Evan Smith is one hellva driver, I don't think he was taking shots at him

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

The GT500 is faster in straight line race against the ZL1. It's a dead horse. Roadcourse next.

This is about on point. So far the best 1/4 mile for the Shelby is 11.8/11.5 and the best for the ZL1 is 11.9. None of these times have been recorded yet but I believe them. The only time it would be a drives race is if a Auto ZL1 lines up against a Shelby with a driver that is not so good at shifting. Lets get some of these 1/4 mile times on video and move on to the road course. I think it should be a track in America that neither car has run before.

[oortcloud]

OK. Could someone please come up with the ZL1's fastest lap time at Road Atlanta, or is there not an official one posted somewhere?? Thanks, Erik

I doubt there are any times from Road Atlanta yet. But I'd love to see a ZL1 vs. Shelby race there. My bet would be on the ZL1.

But this is simply speculation based on the awesome time they posted at nurburgring. There have been pictures of the 2013 shelby at nurburgring, but no times were release. Wonder why?

Also, to have either car in an official race requires special safety equipment such as a fuel cell. Which is why it may take a while before you see the ZL1 there. Although they could probably race there in some private event without the special equipment.