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Old 10-30-2012, 11:34 AM   #29
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The point is that people should not be FORCED to do it. If they want to risk their own life, then so be it.
But as a taxpayer, I don't want to be "forced" to pay for your emergency room treatment and rehabilitation.. including Social Security disability payments.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:52 AM   #30
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Thank you for sharing that

The basic realistic reason to not ride any kind of motorcycle at all is shown below:

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.....70mph accident....side swiped by a suburban who decided he had to be in my lane right then and there.....knocked off the bike and then run over by the vehicle behind me......my initial fall...sliding at a measured 352 feet before the car behind me hit me and used me as a speed bump.....helmet protected my head.....I did however break my hip, femur and pelvis, ruptured a testicle, my bladder and my spleen, as well as broke 5 ribs.......and yes I still ride.
The average person driving a car right now, is someone who just drank 12 beers the night before. And this drinking heavily typically will take place beginning on a Monday, and then on the following days of the week after this. I know that, because I used to go out every night drinking during my 20s. But I don't do that anymore. However, many people age 18 to 30, do drink heavily on a daily basis, and probably are a little less careful when they go driving to work the next morning.

Driving anywhere on any highway is basically a lethal choice. It is not just because someone drank alcohol. It's because they are tired. They stay up all night watching TV. It can be any reason. The average person on the street always looks extremely exhausted like they didn't sleep all week long. Maybe they have a baby, and the baby kept them up all night. It can be anything.

Thus, drive the biggest most burly vehicle that you can. Have a gigantic buffer space in front of your car, and along the sides of your car.

Seek out and look for anyone driving way, way too fast, then slow down and get away from them. Be prepared to stop since an accident is very likely to take place just a few hundred feet in front of your car (or motorcycle). This happens daily where I live. There is no escape here. We have mega-accidents. All I see are people sitting on the side of the road exchanging car insurance, and many occasions one of the cars is upside down. The drivers in these accidents do typically look between 18 and 30. I rarely see someone who looks older standing around next to an upside down car, but I'm sure it does happen.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:14 PM   #31
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I never could understand why states that allow you to ride your motocycle with no helmet also require you to wear seatbelts.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:05 PM   #32
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:23 PM   #33
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Ive rode since 1973, Everything from rice to harleys. It should be your ow n choice, not the goverment telling you . Dont be a nanny..
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:45 PM   #34
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:24 PM   #35
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The basic realistic reason to not ride any kind of motorcycle at all is shown below:



The average person driving a car right now, is someone who just drank 12 beers the night before. And this drinking heavily typically will take place beginning on a Monday, and then on the following days of the week after this. I know that, because I used to go out every night drinking during my 20s. But I don't do that anymore. However, many people age 18 to 30, do drink heavily on a daily basis, and probably are a little less careful when they go driving to work the next morning.

Driving anywhere on any highway is basically a lethal choice. It is not just because someone drank alcohol. It's because they are tired. They stay up all night watching TV. It can be any reason. The average person on the street always looks extremely exhausted like they didn't sleep all week long. Maybe they have a baby, and the baby kept them up all night. It can be anything.

Thus, drive the biggest most burly vehicle that you can. Have a gigantic buffer space in front of your car, and along the sides of your car.

Seek out and look for anyone driving way, way too fast, then slow down and get away from them. Be prepared to stop since an accident is very likely to take place just a few hundred feet in front of your car (or motorcycle). This happens daily where I live. There is no escape here. We have mega-accidents. All I see are people sitting on the side of the road exchanging car insurance, and many occasions one of the cars is upside down. The drivers in these accidents do typically look between 18 and 30. I rarely see someone who looks older standing around next to an upside down car, but I'm sure it does happen.

makes no difference in a car or on a bike, people are morons, and they drive like morons, hot rodding from light to light, traveling 20,30,40 mph over the posted limits, running red lights, etc.

I see it every day as well, around where I work in Los Angeles might be similar to your area, a lot of people with no licenses because they have no legal right to be here. They can't drive, they have no insurance, and they use their vehicles like a 2 ton weapon, cutting people off, changing lanes into them, etc.,

car or bike won't matter, I have been the victim of pretty bad accidents in/on both.. it comes down to being on me to police what everyone else is doing to protect myself. In the case of my motorcycle accident I can honestly say I do not remember seeing that SUV coming at me, which means I wasn't doing my job and paying attention to my surroundings, had I been a tad more alert the accident might not have happened..

bottom line is you cannot expect anyone else to see you regardless of what you drive, you have to be proactive and anticipate what everyone else is going to do.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #36
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In Utah there is no helmet law for riders 18+ years of age, but if you are younger than 18 you are required by law to have a helmet on a motorcycle.

I ride a sportbike and I wear a full-faced helmet all the time. A matter of fact, I ride ATGATT. It may suck when it gets hot here, but at least if I go down I'm protected.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #37
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Texas and no helmet laws. Always wear a full face, leather jacket and gloves. Almost always wear earplugs.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:36 PM   #38
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The point is that people should not be FORCED to do it. If they want to risk their own life, then so be it.


Same should go with seatbelts too! My sister got in a really bad accident over 20 years ago. If she would've been wearing her seatbelt, she would have been killed.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:13 PM   #39
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But as a taxpayer, I don't want to be "forced" to pay for your emergency room treatment and rehabilitation.. including Social Security disability payments.
I pay for my insurance (both medical and Auto) so your agrument is a mute point. As for Social Security your gonna pay it for someone, might as well be for a motorcyle rider over a Ob**anitwit....

Riders choice....
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:49 PM   #40
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I need a new one, that looks sharp.
It's an amazing helmet. I bought that for $600, I have a black Scorpion FF that was $200, and an old school RSD 3/4 helmet for the really hot summer days that was less than $100.


The Bell Star with WWII fighter/bomber graphics is my favorite. Very lightweight, visor rarely fogs up and you can crack an opening with a flip of a switch to relieve that in the cold, Trimatrix composite shell (motogp spec.), very effective ventilation system, warm in the winter, contour cut cheek pads, and Bell will custom fit any helmet. Clickity Clack!!!

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Old 11-01-2012, 09:32 AM   #41
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Not saying do or don't its your life.
But in the 80's I had a buddy hit the pavement at about 35mph the right side of his face would have been chewed off by the pavement. Instead the full face helmet was gnawed up. So still as ugly as the day I met him.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:47 AM   #42
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I don't ride, but if I did I'd wear a helmet... Managing head injuries from patients that were in a motorcycle collision without a helmet is much more difficult than those who wore a helmet.
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