To all you confused, misguided V6 guys...

[Coyotekiller]

Originally Posted by 90503

Shouldn't you have titled this for confused, misguided "V-8" guys?...lol...just sayin'...

Nah I titled it just how I wanted it.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by stlrammer
I do wish that the V6 came with a deeper exhaust tone (sounds klike a sewing maching)

Originally Posted by Rocky1974

. . . . when you start it up and drive off and all the bystanders hear that chainsaw exhaust note, the image is just ruined. Nothing says muscle car quite like that V8 rumble and nothing says "I'm a poser" quite like that V6 exhaust note.

It's "ruined" only when the listener can appreciate nothing but one kind of exhaust sound. Which sounds a bit too much like V8-only narrow-mindedness to me. Then again, we all have our own biases . . . I'll come back to that in a bit.

I hadn't ever heard the "chainsaw" comparison before, but I know what you're getting at. A sixxer has its own characteristic sound, and it's best to appreciate it for what it is - and distinctive in its own right. I think if you heard a loud sixxer Camaro without actually seeing it, your opinion might be a little less rigid.

If I had a V6, I'd put the absolutely the quietest mufflers on it I could find. I can never understand these people who get a V6 and want to put loud mufflers on it. It's like they want to take the absolute worst feature of their car and make sure no one misses it.

Like I said, we all have our own biases. For exactly the reasons you mentioned right there, I don't care to hear a loud exhaust when the vehicle has a different transmission type than any of my cars have. No matter how many cylinders the engine in front of it might have or what the exhaust system configuration behind it is like (usually, it ends up being a pickup truck that's been given a "bad-attitude" voice). But hearing what my gut reaction is probably won't change anybody else's mind on exhaust system preference either.


You sixxer Camaro folks - I have a couple of cars with sixxes, and in one of those the exhaust is unstock from just ahead of the rear "axle" (no, not anybody's kit, just an aftermarket muffler and a few pieces of tubing). It'll play a pretty sweet tune going up and down through the gears.


Norm

[heRS]

I'm not in a big hurry these days so the V6 was perfect for me. I didn't buy it to race! Rubycamaro is proving you can win at the track with a V6 - the DRIVER is half the equation! As for car shows, I've won trophies at 5 of 7 shows this summer with my V6.
I've owned my share of V8s, and I'm impressed with my V6 every time I go for a drive.

[Rocky1974]

Originally Posted by RollaMo

Some of us "old school" guys just can't bring ourselves to go with the V6.
Wife and I wanted the V8 from the start, since our previous Camaro's were V8's.
To be honest, it really was the "sound".
Today's modern V6 is faster and handles better than most older V8 cars.

I wouldn't look at anybody with the V6 as a "poser" though.
Most young buyers today (anybody under the age of 30) really don't have a connection to the old muscle cars.
To them this V6 is the perfect muscle car, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Much better to see them buying a V6 Camaro (Or Mustang, Challenger for that matter) than a Toyota, Nissan, Honda, etc.
It's cars like the current crop of pony cars, that are helping Detroit make a come back.

RubyCamaro said it very well, and BowtieBelle wining car shows with her car.
They are both having a blast with their cars, and that is all that matters.

I agree and I didn't mean to say that the V6's are really posers. I'm just saying that they "sound" like posers. A 5th gen V6 car will run low 14's in the quarter and probably high 13's with mods. My 87 IROC with a 350 runs only runs mid 14's. I'm old school and I can remember the muscle car days. In spite of what everybody thinks, most the original muscle cars only ran 14's. It was only the very fastest of them that got into the 13's. The V6 cars are plenty fast enough, it's just that after you've heard a LS3 that V6 exhaust note is kind of hard to take.

[Coyotekiller]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I hadn't ever heard the "chainsaw" comparison before, but I know what you're getting at. A sixxer has its own characteristic sound, and it's best to appreciate it for what it is - and distinctive in its own right. I think if you heard a loud sixxer Camaro without actually seeing it, your opinion might be a little less rigid.

Funny you should say that, I was in traffic behind a V6 camaro the other day. I couldn't tell it was a camaro at first but I heard the exhaust from up ahead of me and thought it was a Honda with a fart can on it. You can hate on me if you want, but that's what it sounded like. I had a Supra and honestly that's about what it sounded like when I had a crappy exhaust on it. I didn't like that sound at all and was surprised a little bit that it was coming from a V6 like the camaro I was driving.

[bandier]

I was on a very swervy road the other day. I put my V6 Auto in Sport Mode and wow she put a smile on my face. I love it!!! It seems lately I am really liking my car. I've always liked her but there times when I just gotta say "Yea Baby!" , put my foot into it and couldn't be happier with my 6 cylinder Camaro.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by Caspers2SSRS

Ok I'm gonna bite and play the devils advocate here.............Oddly this from someone who ditched a car with plenty of Zip.....for a car thats not really fast and that if the engine ( foundation) is modified, can be made to be fast.

Come on Now,,,,,,,a V6 equiped model can be made to be more powerful cheaper than a V8......but not quicker or more powerful. In as much adding the performance suspension & brakes...............is another area you've failed to mention. In jest........ performance is more than engine mod's no matter the foundation of whats under the hood.

Mistakenly faster is often a incorrectly and loosely used word around here................would'nt that be better defined as the upper speeds on the speedometer someone would be willing to push a automobile too. Surely you meant quicker. Just saying..............and a stock SS is a lot quicker (under 5 seconds 0-60) and there are no comparisons of a SS's capabilities of being faster straight out of the box when compared to a V6 model, nor who'd come out on top if similiar foundation modification were applied to one equally as the V6 you've mentioned.................

Sorry I meant quicker. Different strokes for different folks. I see what you are driving though Id mess with a V6 if it was a lightweight non-american car but this is a big American boat a V8 engine is what it needs and deserves, and I wish the V6 had the same suspension and brakes as the V8, that would make it a lot more compelling. What's up with the standard diff on the A6, that's total BS.

As usual, just like the 4th gen V6 cars I have driven they are 'sporty' but lackluster and somethings holding the engine back, oh that's right you can hardly hear it, which brings up our next set of problems.

I just couldn't do it man. Couldn't bring myself to get started. One phone call to order some headers and cat back system for a 2LT, and then it's gonna sound like poop??? No way. Turbo is the obvious answer, no one can deny anything with a big turbo sounds bad ass, but then you better get proficient in tearing down 3.6s. too much technology for this guy in this area, this car thing is a sideline hobby for me , I'll pass, DO not want.

[Rocky1974]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Originally Posted by stlrammer
I do wish that the V6 came with a deeper exhaust tone (sounds klike a sewing maching)


It's "ruined" only when the listener can appreciate nothing but one kind of exhaust sound. Which sounds a bit too much like V8-only narrow-mindedness to me. Then again, we all have our own biases . . . I'll come back to that in a bit.

I hadn't ever heard the "chainsaw" comparison before, but I know what you're getting at. A sixxer has its own characteristic sound, and it's best to appreciate it for what it is - and distinctive in its own right. I think if you heard a loud sixxer Camaro without actually seeing it, your opinion might be a little less rigid.




Like I said, we all have our own biases. For exactly the reasons you mentioned right there, I don't care to hear a loud exhaust when the vehicle has a different transmission type than any of my cars have. No matter how many cylinders the engine in front of it might have or what the exhaust system configuration behind it is like (usually, it ends up being a pickup truck that's been given a "bad-attitude" voice). But hearing what my gut reaction is probably won't change anybody else's mind on exhaust system preference either.


You sixxer Camaro folks - I have a couple of cars with sixxes, and in one of those the exhaust is unstock from just ahead of the rear "axle" (no, not anybody's kit, just an aftermarket muffler and a few pieces of tubing). It'll play a pretty sweet tune going up and down through the gears.


Norm

Ha! Ha! I do love stirring the pot! You call it "V8-only narrow-mindedness". Fair enough. But just for the record, I'm not anti-V6 at all. I've had plenty of V6's and I've had some very fast ones that I liked very much. I've been driving S-Series trucks with 4.3's since GM starting putting them in. They are economical, damned near indestructible, and can be plenty fast. I traded a 12 second 91 Syclone for my 10 SS Camaro. I loved that truck, but I had Camaro fever and something had to go in order for something else to come in. But none of my V6's, no matter how cool they were, no matter how fast they were, had that V8 rumble and nothing says "muscle car" quite like that V8 rumble!

[classicrockr]

I love my V6....
I don't mind going just a tad bit slower that the V8's because when I got that top down...I LOVE taking the extra time to watch everyone else STARE at my car...

[Sevn86]

Originally Posted by Rocky1974

Exactly! I'm sure the V6 is plenty fast enough and when equipped with the RS package they look enough like muscle car, but when you start it up and drive off and all the bystanders hear that chainsaw exhaust note, the image is just ruined. Nothing says muscle car quite like that V8 rumble and nothing says "I'm a poser" quite like that V6 exhaust note. If I had a V6, I'd put the absolutely the quietest mufflers on it I could find. I can never understand these people who get a V6 and want to put loud mufflers on it. It's like they want to take the absolute worst feature of their car and make sure no one misses it.

Lol

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by classicrockr

I love my V6....
I don't mind going just a tad bit slower that the V8's because when I got that top down...I LOVE taking the extra time to watch everyone else STARE at my car...

I'm not about the attention, and lots of people don't like my car, but I could care less. I like having it.

[1FOCUSS]

Originally Posted by mntgome1

I think a lot of guys give the V-6's shyt just because. You know how us guys are... Mines is bigger than yours. I would happily be driving a V-6 if my financial situation at the time couldn't provide me with the SS and I would be just as happy. The Camaro is the best looking car on the road rite now hands down.

Well said... I get tired of people driving a 4 cyl talking about oh... you don't have a SS. Who cares if I'M driving a V6. I still can take some SS's off the line but will be hawked down after the first 100 yards. Who cares... I don't race my camaro... I enjoy my nice looking car.

[mel1]

I remember when I bought my Pontiac G8 V6. I thought I would be satisfied with that....but wasn't. I didn't do my research and found out that they came with V8's too. I tried every mod possible to make it faster but wasn't fast enough. No matter V8 or V6 camaro, they all look crazy nice. Guess it depends on how much you're willing to spend on the car, and what do you want from it in return.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by mel1

I remember when I bought my Pontiac G8 V6. I thought I would be satisfied with that....but wasn't. I didn't do my research and found out that they came with V8's too. I tried every mod possible to make it faster but wasn't fast enough. No matter V8 or V6 camaro, they all look crazy nice. Guess it depends on how much you're willing to spend on the car, and what do you want from it in return.

True that, and here I go again. I'm wondering why I just don't have a Corvette. This vehicle is just a toy to me anyway.

In threads like this, opinions are everywhere, but people also discuss their priorities which is cool. Priorities tend to change and vary. I certainly wouldn't want my car for a daily driver. That would get old real quick.