JANNETTY RACING ZL-1 NO TUNE PULLEY ROTOFAB TESTING RESULTS

[charlietuna]

Sir thank you for your continued support on this forum. You have earned my business without hesitation. When will you be informed on the additional air inlet source rotofab has mentioned on this forum for the ZL1. I only want to order this application once.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by Deke736

So, if I typically run 93 octane my best option is to go with a 5% pulley and a CAI? Would I only need the Torco on track days?

The Rotofab looks nice and obviously has great performance, but I am still waiting to see what CAI, Inc comes out with!

to me that is debatable. I think I would run just the 10% lower no CAI from the data I have seen. that seems to net the best safe gain. 45hp wtihout knock.

the 5% and intake was getting knock.

then again I don't like the idea of knock and this piston type too much but maybe I am over paranoid.

Ted did you guys think about trying the 10% pully with say a 90mm TB? or CAI only with the 90mm TB.

I only bring it up because it is cheap and someone posted in they go 10HP or something with it.

I had a feeling the CAI with the 10% pulley would be too much but was hoping.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by hognutz

to me that is debatable. I think I would run just the 10% lower no CAI from the data I have seen. that seems to net the best safe gain. 45hp wtihout knock.

the 5% and intake was getting knock.

then again I don't like the idea of knock and this piston type too much but maybe I am over paranoid.

Ted did you guys think about trying the 10% pully with say a 90mm TB? or CAI only with the 90mm TB.

I only bring it up because it is cheap and someone posted in they go 10HP or something with it.

I had a feeling the CAI with the 10% pulley would be too much but was hoping.

That is my concern and the reason I asked if the motor automatically pulls timing when it starts knocking, is it something we have to worry about that much? Seems like it is the same thing when IAT2 gets too hot the motor pulls timing and we dont have to worry. Is that the same case with knock retard?

[s/c ss]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Your Welcome,

No codes are set but knock retard is too severe with both the 10% and the CAI so either 100 octane unleaded or Torco Race Gas Concentrate should be run with this combo to see the results I did SAFELY.


Ted.

I tried to read this a few times but you lost me a little here so I'm going to ask this. Is it ok to run the 97 octane, 10% OD pulley & CAI which will add 75HP over base?

[hairtrigger]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

All testing was done on 93 octane until we added TORCO

Power was 514 with 5 % and Rotofab

On 91 octane I suggest only a 5% over pulley Without a tune

Ted

When you ran into knock retard did the ecu drop down into the low octane table and if so, how did you get it back into the high octane table again? Did you have to do a fuse pull?

[avcbm]

Ted,
Seems still like a lot of questions, might I suggest a chart with the various combinations, along with any gains, problems or comments. That way with just a glance all the answers are right there instead of having to go back through the thread and read all the data that was collected….. I’m definitely on board if no tune is required, within reason, I just would like to know what the risk are, and if those risk would be better mitigated with a tune to be safer.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by charlietuna

Sir thank you for your continued support on this forum. You have earned my business without hesitation. When will you be informed on the additional air inlet source rotofab has mentioned on this forum for the ZL1. I only want to order this application once.

I have one in my possession just ran out of time yesterday and it is snowing today I will test it as soon as the weather breaks

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by hognutz

to me that is debatable. I think I would run just the 10% lower no CAI from the data I have seen. that seems to net the best safe gain. 45hp wtihout knock.

the 5% and intake was getting knock.

then again I don't like the idea of knock and this piston type too much but maybe I am over paranoid.

Ted did you guys think about trying the 10% pully with say a 90mm TB? or CAI only with the 90mm TB.

I only bring it up because it is cheap and someone posted in they go 10HP or something with it.

I had a feeling the CAI with the 10% pulley would be too much but was hoping.

Just an FYI all cars will see knock retard stock or otherwise this is the computer constantly searching for the right timing for the fuel that it in the tank at the moment, when it goes beyond 1 degree it learns down to a lower timing number in the low octane table, and if there is no knock it learns up toward the High octane table.

The 10% alone and the 5% with CAI had similar results and knock activity well withing normal parameters.

Your right anything beyond this power level would require Custom Tuning To run on this OCTANE fuel including a larger TB.

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

That is my concern and the reason I asked if the motor automatically pulls timing when it starts knocking, is it something we have to worry about that much? Seems like it is the same thing when IAT2 gets too hot the motor pulls timing and we dont have to worry. Is that the same case with knock retard?

Your answer is above

Originally Posted by s/c ss

I tried to read this a few times but you lost me a little here so I'm going to ask this. Is it ok to run the 97 octane, 10% OD pulley & CAI which will add 75HP over base?

Yes that is the Conclusion with octane we can run this much boost on the stock tune, There Is Plenty of fuel and little to no Knock Activity.

Originally Posted by hairtrigger

When you ran into knock retard did the ecu drop down into the low octane table and if so, how did you get it back into the high octane table again? Did you have to do a fuse pull?

Yes it does, your answer is above also.

Originally Posted by avcbm

Ted,
Seems still like a lot of questions, might I suggest a chart with the various combinations, along with any gains, problems or comments. That way with just a glance all the answers are right there instead of having to go back through the thread and read all the data that was collected….. I’m definitely on board if no tune is required, within reason, I just would like to know what the risk are, and if those risk would be better mitigated with a tune to be safer.

I wish it were that easy, I did a Chart on the Cold air testing 2 years ago and I still get question on it daily.

Basically if you follow my recipes you can't go wrong.

Ted.

[BSR-1]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

I wish it were that easy, I did a Chart on the Cold air testing 2 years ago and I still get question on it daily.

Basically if you follow my recipes you can't go wrong.

Ted.

I bought my Injen LT CAI (from you) for my LLT based on your testing.
I REALLY appreciate your transparency, truth and effort.
Thank You!

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by BSR-1

I bought my Injen LT CAI (from you) for my LLT based on your testing.
I REALLY appreciate your transparency, truth and effort.
Thank You!

AWESOME!

[newy]

Has anyone done any testing with non-ethonol ? Mine is only a week old so I don,t know the difference with it . Bone stock made 2 tenths in a quarter with my 2010 and 3.5 to 5 mpg highway .

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by newy

Has anyone done any testing with non-ethonol ? Mine is only a week old so I don,t know the difference with it . Bone stock made 2 tenths in a quarter with my 2010 and 3.5 to 5 mpg highway .

If we could get it locally we would be running ourselves but that does not help the Majority of America with E-10 to E-20

Ted.

[69NMYSS]

Ted,
Can you please explain what is causing the knock with the 10% OD pulley for those of us not as mechanically inclined as others? I realize it is detonating but is this because the A/F ratio is off due to the increased boost?

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Ted,
Can you please explain what is causing the knock with the 10% OD pulley for those of us not as mechanically inclined as others? I realize it is detonating but is this because the A/F ratio is off due to the increased boost?

Boost Pressure VS Octane, AFR is Perfect.