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camaro5 · 04-16-2008, 03:51 PM

I would like "none of the above" to be added and here's why...

Yesterday (4/16/08) fbodfather clarified this situation with no more room for guessing -

He said:

"My quote about "forget all you know about engines" -- is very misunderstood and I need to clarify.......

I made that statement when people thought we'd put an LS2 or a Z06 engine in the Camaro...........my point was: The LS2 is an old engine -- we have new stuff that you haven't heard about ---(remember -- this quote was a while ago!) --

I was NOT referring to Turbo Charged 4 cylinder engines!!!!!!!

I am a V8 guy -- I am NOT trying to sell you on a perspective............other than:

>Camaro will be class leading

>It will be a car you can be proud to own................."

http://camaro5.com/forums/showpost.p...7&postcount=24

My vote: Small block V8 with 400hp or more and 6 speed Tremec available.

We cannot guess the engine RPO, because it's a new engine that does not currently exist in documentation.

I'll take one, please!

AirGoya · 04-16-2008, 04:31 PM

why does everything have to be supercharged?

*The_Blur* · 04-16-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirGoya

why does everything have to be supercharged?

I'm not a big fan of forced induction out of the factory. I'd rather take the second tier, non-supercharged model, assuming a supercharged model is made at all.

There is no indication that a higher model will exist any time after production.

smokn' · 04-16-2008, 05:24 PM

^^^^^^

i'm with u blur. no FI here. as for my vote, i guessed supercharged ls3, even though i wouldn't like it. although i would like to change the ss there to a z/28. personally, if i had it my way, the setup would be something like this:
camaro

I v6 300hp
rs:appearance package addition
ss:l76 400hp
z/28:special suspension, brembos, and factory tuned l76 430-50hp

i don't think i've ever seen this one before, so why not? oh yeah, and through in DI, flexfuel, and maybe even AFM???(w/ an off button, i know my foot does it, but i wouldn't want any lag or weak exhaust at the stoplight!)

*Mr. Wyndham* · 04-16-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokn'

(w/ an off button, i know my foot does it, but i wouldn't want any lag or weak exhaust at the stoplight!)

No lag. All 8 cylinders are on during low speeds, and stops.

smokn' · 04-16-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No lag. All 8 cylinders are on during low speeds, and stops.

good 2 know, thanx dragoneye!

Jeff · 04-16-2008, 05:40 PM

Most accurate thing to me seems to be SS with LSA (Super Charged) – 550 +hp

COPO_Chevy · 04-16-2008, 05:55 PM

My guess is SS is the top dog with the LSA(maybe other LS* engine and n/a from the factory) 550hp, with the Z28 being a handling package with good hp numbers and the RS being an appearance package.

Cant wait to see the actual results, and im sure none of us can!

CaptianSam · 04-16-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingnotes

I think it will be the LS8 (supercharged) in the SS trim. I think that the Z-28 will be a handling package, and the RS will be an appearance package.

bingo...... ss big engine... z 28 handeling package and little v8... rs appearance... you can get ss v8 with z28 handeling pack and rs skirts

no supercharged camaro

CatiaJockey · 04-16-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro5

I would like "none of the above" to be added and here's why...

Yesterday (4/16/08) fbodfather clarified this situation with no more room for guessing -

He said:..........

I agree...... We've not been lied to and I don't believe we ever will be by Scott. I take him at his literal word. Sure wish he let loose some data about those damn headlights tho...lol

*The_Blur* · 04-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No lag. All 8 cylinders are on during low speeds, and stops.

Also, AFM cuts off on the next possible cylinder repetition. No human being can feel the difference between 1 repetition and the next, and there are multiple thousands of these repetition during acceleration. The lag would be so negligible that no human would be able to tell.

*GTAHVIT* · 04-16-2008, 09:45 PM

LSA

stovt001 · 04-16-2008, 10:02 PM

This isn't necessarily what I think will happen, just what I'd do if I was the Benevolent Dictator at GM:

I'd have the SS is the V8 trim, but the top dog would be the Z28. I'd make Chevy's "Z" cars like BMW's M, Mercedes' AMG, and Cadillac's V. SS's would be fast, sure, but the Z cars would be true purpose built streetable race machines.

NOODLESgoneWILD · 04-16-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stovt001

This isn't necessarily what I think will happen, just what I'd do if I was the Benevolent Dictator at GM:

I'd have the SS is the V8 trim, but the top dog would be the Z28. I'd make Chevy's "Z" cars like BMW's M, Mercedes' AMG, and Cadillac's V. SS's would be fast, sure, but the Z cars would be true purpose built streetable race machines.

Are you saying that as the ZR1 is to Corvette, That Z/28 should be to Camaro?

Just because of the Z in the name? Just clarifying!

View Poll Results: What will it be!...once and for all?
SS with LS3 – 430 +hp	8	7.92%
SS with L76 (Super Charged) – 500 +hp	6	5.94%
SS with LSA (Super Charged) – 550 +hp	32	31.68%
SS/Z28 with LS3 (Super Charged) – 575 +hp	11	10.89%
Z/28 with LS3 – 400 +hp (Sport Tuned)	12	11.88%
Z/28 with LS4 (Super Charged) – 475 +hp (Sport Tuned)	2	1.98%
Z/28 with LS8 (Super Charged) – 530 +hp (Sport Tuned)	16	15.84%
Z/28/SS with LS7 (Super Charged) – 545 +hp (Sport Tuned)	4	3.96%
SS/RS (Z/28-AWD) LS9 (Super Charged) – 600+hp	10	9.90%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

04-16-2008, 04:31 PM	#30
AirGoya Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago/Carbondale Posts: 815	why does everything have to be supercharged? __________________ -Tim

04-16-2008, 05:24 PM	#32
smokn' Drives: Banana boat Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The carribeen Posts: 228	^^^^^^ i'm with u blur. no FI here. as for my vote, i guessed supercharged ls3, even though i wouldn't like it. although i would like to change the ss there to a z/28. personally, if i had it my way, the setup would be something like this: camaroI v6 300hp rs:appearance package addition ss:l76 400hp z/28:special suspension, brembos, and factory tuned l76 430-50hp i don't think i've ever seen this one before, so why not? oh yeah, and through in DI, flexfuel, and maybe even AFM???(w/ an off button, i know my foot does it, but i wouldn't want any lag or weak exhaust at the stoplight!)

04-16-2008, 05:40 PM	#35
Jeff ~ANTI-FORD~ Drives: Cadillac CTS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 608	Most accurate thing to me seems to be SS with LSA (Super Charged) – 550 +hp __________________ My Z28 sorry guys.. sold Camaro and got a Cadillac CTS, waiting for a few years to get a 2010 SS used ;]

04-16-2008, 09:45 PM	#40
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	LSA __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

04-16-2008, 03:51 PM	#29
camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,630	I would like "none of the above" to be added and here's why... Yesterday (4/16/08) fbodfather clarified this situation with no more room for guessing - He said: "My quote about "forget all you know about engines" -- is very misunderstood and I need to clarify....... I made that statement when people thought we'd put an LS2 or a Z06 engine in the Camaro...........my point was: The LS2 is an old engine -- we have new stuff that you haven't heard about ---(remember -- this quote was a while ago!) -- I was NOT referring to Turbo Charged 4 cylinder engines!!!!!!! I am a V8 guy -- I am NOT trying to sell you on a perspective............other than: >Camaro will be class leading >It will be a car you can be proud to own................." http://camaro5.com/forums/showpost.p...7&postcount=24 My vote: Small block V8 with 400hp or more and 6 speed Tremec available. We cannot guess the engine RPO, because it's a new engine that does not currently exist in documentation. I'll take one, please!

04-16-2008, 05:55 PM	#36
COPO_Chevy Drives: 2015 Malibu 1LT; '87 Grand Prix LE Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chilton, Wisconsin Posts: 480	My guess is SS is the top dog with the LSA(maybe other LS* engine and n/a from the factory) 550hp, with the Z28 being a handling package with good hp numbers and the RS being an appearance package. Cant wait to see the actual results, and im sure none of us can!

04-16-2008, 10:02 PM	#41
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	This isn't necessarily what I think will happen, just what I'd do if I was the Benevolent Dictator at GM: I'd have the SS is the V8 trim, but the top dog would be the Z28. I'd make Chevy's "Z" cars like BMW's M, Mercedes' AMG, and Cadillac's V. SS's would be fast, sure, but the Z cars would be true purpose built streetable race machines.