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EncoreCamaros · 07-18-2013, 10:48 PM

Ive had my fathers '69 camaro laying around for a couple years and ive decided to finally start restoring it. Trying to build it for street/track since thats what it was 20 years ago. Buddy of mine had a 427 lsx block sitting in his garage so i thought it would be bad ass to throw a whipple on it for the car. Forged rotating assembly is obviously a must so i wanted to see what set up you guys are using... And what compression are you running?

ls7camaro · 07-18-2013, 10:53 PM

LSX 427
Procharger F1C
CR 9.7-1
852whp on 12psi
Let me know if theres any more info that would help

2SS45th · 07-18-2013, 10:57 PM

LSX416
Magnachager (for now)
9:1
621whp on 16psi (for now)

The whipple is a little small for a 427.

Unreal · 07-18-2013, 11:12 PM

Long block or shortblock? You will want to figure out what heads so you order the correct whipple. Ls3 and Ls7 style heads take different blowers because of the different port shapes.

427 LSX with PRC 285CC LS7 heads
ECS Ysi Setup
Made 914rwhp on ~11psi.

EncoreCamaros · 07-19-2013, 05:01 PM

Whos pistons, rods, and crank are you guys using?

Unreal · 07-19-2013, 05:03 PM

Livernois pistons, Calles ultra rods, calles dragonslayer crank. Waited 8 months for crank, they are hard to get.

Going back I would have done a lunati pro crank, other than that the ultra rods and livernois pistons are top notch.

If the block doesn't have a rotating assembly then how is it a 427? Stroke of the crank will determine displacement. My 427 is a 4.125x4" but you could do a 4x4.125, or any other combo that comes out to a 427.

BullF-16 · 07-19-2013, 05:22 PM

HKE built LSX 427 (4" stroke x 4.125" pistons)
23cc dish wiseco blower pistons coated, 9.4 CR
Callies ultra billet I beam rods
Dragon slayer crank
Mast black label 305 LS7 6 bolt heads
Pat Guerra designed blower cam
Procharger D1SC (from OE motor) this blower is too small for the motor. Twin PTE 6766 turbos are in the plans

758rwhp/708rwtq at about 14psi......(Kurt Decker's Mustang dyno)

Tuned by Pat G

2SS45th · 07-19-2013, 05:30 PM

Wiseco pistons, Callie's everything else. I have a Lunati Valvetrain as well.

Chris@Livernois · 07-19-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls7camaro

LSX 427
Procharger F1C
CR 9.7-1
852whp on 12psi
Let me know if theres any more info that would help

Kyle I'm guessing you're LS7 Camaro! How is the car treating you so far?

2SS45th · 07-19-2013, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@Livernois

Kyle I'm guessing you're LS7 Camaro! How is the car treating you so far?

I'd guess amazing

Sweet setup guys!

EncoreCamaros · 07-19-2013, 06:40 PM

If the whipple is too small of a blower, what should I run? Vortech ysi or procharger f1 series?

Unreal · 07-19-2013, 06:47 PM

First of all, different size whipples. If you have the 2.9L it will max out around ~800 or so i believe. You could upgrade to a bigger one but then fitting it becomes an issue.

Ysi/2200R/F1R are all good for 900-1050 or so. Great blowers.

Everyone by now knows I'm going to say go twin turbo. A pair of 61mms will be so much nicer and make more power than a Ysi. No belt issues, just tons of torque and power.

BullF-16 · 07-19-2013, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreal

First of all, different size whipples. If you have the 2.9L it will max out around ~800 or so i believe. You could upgrade to a bigger one but then fitting it becomes an issue.

Ysi/2200R/F1R are all good for 900-1050 or so. Great blowers.

Everyone by now knows I'm going to say go twin turbo. A pair of 61mms will be so much nicer and make more power than a Ysi. No belt issues, just tons of torque and power.

Nick, what makes you say 61s. I was leaning toward the PTE6766 journal bearing turbos from my research. My ultimate goal is between 1000 and 1100rwhp. Although I am having too much fun now with the D1SC. Its already ridiculous and i am finally ready to hit the road course now that my brakes are done. Do you think twins would cause even more heating issues with oil/trans/radiator temps? Im running a pretty stout Earls 16 row wide oil cooler and am concerned the twins would cause issues with heat on the occasional track day.

OP, look into the new F1X from procharger.

Unreal · 07-19-2013, 07:11 PM

61s will make 1000, spool up quickly, and run good. 66 would be fine too if you want over 1200.

Then again for a 427 you would probably want the 1.06 a/r housings or something big.

It all depends on what you want.

07-18-2013, 10:48 PM	#1
EncoreCamaros Drives: 2010 Victory Red Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 166	Lsx engine built Ive had my fathers '69 camaro laying around for a couple years and ive decided to finally start restoring it. Trying to build it for street/track since thats what it was 20 years ago. Buddy of mine had a 427 lsx block sitting in his garage so i thought it would be bad ass to throw a whipple on it for the car. Forged rotating assembly is obviously a must so i wanted to see what set up you guys are using... And what compression are you running? __________________ ARH 1 7/8 headers catless 3'' long system, Whipple sc 4.00 pulley 9 lbs boost, msd boost-a-pump, CAI intake, Pfadt coilovers, toe links, trailing arms, solid cradle bushings, sway bars, Forgestar CF5 19x9.5/19x11, M/T et street II radials

07-18-2013, 10:57 PM	#3
2SS45th Drives: 11 Seconds or Faster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 2,797 View My Garage	LSX416 Magnachager (for now) 9:1 621whp on 16psi (for now) The whipple is a little small for a 427. __________________ I Ain't About That Stock Life.

07-18-2013, 11:12 PM	#4
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Long block or shortblock? You will want to figure out what heads so you order the correct whipple. Ls3 and Ls7 style heads take different blowers because of the different port shapes. 427 LSX with PRC 285CC LS7 heads ECS Ysi Setup Made 914rwhp on ~11psi. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-19-2013, 05:01 PM	#5
EncoreCamaros Drives: 2010 Victory Red Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 166	Whos pistons, rods, and crank are you guys using? __________________ ARH 1 7/8 headers catless 3'' long system, Whipple sc 4.00 pulley 9 lbs boost, msd boost-a-pump, CAI intake, Pfadt coilovers, toe links, trailing arms, solid cradle bushings, sway bars, Forgestar CF5 19x9.5/19x11, M/T et street II radials

07-19-2013, 05:03 PM	#6
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Livernois pistons, Calles ultra rods, calles dragonslayer crank. Waited 8 months for crank, they are hard to get. Going back I would have done a lunati pro crank, other than that the ultra rods and livernois pistons are top notch. If the block doesn't have a rotating assembly then how is it a 427? Stroke of the crank will determine displacement. My 427 is a 4.125x4" but you could do a 4x4.125, or any other combo that comes out to a 427. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-18-2013, 10:53 PM	#2
ls7camaro Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA Posts: 395	LSX 427 Procharger F1C CR 9.7-1 852whp on 12psi Let me know if theres any more info that would help

07-19-2013, 05:22 PM	#7
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	HKE built LSX 427 (4" stroke x 4.125" pistons) 23cc dish wiseco blower pistons coated, 9.4 CR Callies ultra billet I beam rods Dragon slayer crank Mast black label 305 LS7 6 bolt heads Pat Guerra designed blower cam Procharger D1SC (from OE motor) this blower is too small for the motor. Twin PTE 6766 turbos are in the plans 758rwhp/708rwtq at about 14psi......(Kurt Decker's Mustang dyno) Tuned by Pat G __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

07-19-2013, 05:30 PM	#8
2SS45th Drives: 11 Seconds or Faster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 2,797 View My Garage	Wiseco pistons, Callie's everything else. I have a Lunati Valvetrain as well. __________________ I Ain't About That Stock Life.

07-19-2013, 06:40 PM	#11
EncoreCamaros Drives: 2010 Victory Red Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 166	If the whipple is too small of a blower, what should I run? Vortech ysi or procharger f1 series? __________________ ARH 1 7/8 headers catless 3'' long system, Whipple sc 4.00 pulley 9 lbs boost, msd boost-a-pump, CAI intake, Pfadt coilovers, toe links, trailing arms, solid cradle bushings, sway bars, Forgestar CF5 19x9.5/19x11, M/T et street II radials

07-19-2013, 06:47 PM	#12
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	First of all, different size whipples. If you have the 2.9L it will max out around ~800 or so i believe. You could upgrade to a bigger one but then fitting it becomes an issue. Ysi/2200R/F1R are all good for 900-1050 or so. Great blowers. Everyone by now knows I'm going to say go twin turbo. A pair of 61mms will be so much nicer and make more power than a Ysi. No belt issues, just tons of torque and power. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

07-19-2013, 07:11 PM	#14
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	61s will make 1000, spool up quickly, and run good. 66 would be fine too if you want over 1200. Then again for a 427 you would probably want the 1.06 a/r housings or something big. It all depends on what you want. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp