2010 Camaro engine bay showing DI 3.6L V6 LLT engine ?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

Excellent point, except that the GXP model [that's the one w/ the LS3 which we pretty much know is going to be the v-8 for the camaro and likely the only one from what the Fbodfather has told us] is going to be just under $40K according to this http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...ntiacg8gxp1500 and this http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/4474 so I guess I have a valid point there and check out what motortrend estimates that dodge will be charging for a challenger http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rt8/specs.html . Ohh what's this, $37,995 you say. Well I'm sure that logic and reasoning is just dumb and that we should buy whatever every 16 year old who wants to feel like an expert on the subject says about anything. You'll probably be able to get a new Camaro with an LS3 with 405 HP and DoD for like $20. Hey, maybe they'll also start selling those new z06's for like $30k, that way I can afford one of those too. I'm sure they'll make plenty of money that way.

Seriously though, you shouldn't believe things that random dudes post on the internet, you'll get your hopes up only to to have them shot down when this sweet car gets released next year. And if by the grace of god chevy does sell these v-8's super cheap, then I will be camping outside of the factory next year like a nerd eagerly awaiting a new star wars movie.[not that there's anything wrong with star wars]

...Okay. Right, er...thanks.

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

You STILL doubt? (sigh) Then I give up!

I get the feeling that some of these people go into the dealership...and say;
your msrp says only $30,000, will you take $35,000? Cause I am rich!

At least ask for the car to be less expensive, if it is not then pay your $35k+

[MerF]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

Seriously though, you shouldn't believe things that random dudes post on the internet, you'll get your hopes up only to to have them shot down when this sweet car gets released next year......

If there's one thing we don't do on Camaro5.com, it's that we don't believe random rumors on the internet until we get viable proof of them.

This does not include speculation, which we do and so far we've been pretty fair on our guesses, more often than not UNDERestimating if anything.

In other news, learn punctuation so we can actually understand something you say in your posts.

[fastball]

The more I decipher Fbod's cryptic codes, the more I have bought in to the belief that the entry level V8 WILL in FACT start under 30k.

In fact, at this point I would be surprised if you COULDN'T get one for under 30k..... that is, if you keep the options to a minimum.

Which means, I suspect the 3.6 to start around 23k.

This is going to be one heck of a deal.

[SuprDispatchQuestionVisor]

Originally Posted by chadrcr

I get the feeling that some of these people go into the dealership...and say;
your msrp says only $30,000, will you take $35,000? Cause I am rich!

At least ask for the car to be less expensive, if it is not then pay your $35k+

Actually, it is well known that the reason why ford can keep the cost of a mustang GT under 30K is due to the SRA which is much cheaper to manufacture than an independent rear suspension. Also, I predict that dealers will try to price gouge this new V-8 camaro just like they've been doing on the new shelby cobra's. I just don't see the logic you're using to come up with this $30K figure. If you can explain, then please do.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

Actually, it is well known that the reason why ford can keep the cost of a mustang GT under 30K is due to the SRA which is much cheaper to manufacture than an independent rear suspension. Also, I predict that dealers will try to price gouge this new V-8 camaro just like they've been doing on the new shelby cobra's. I just don't see the logic you're using to come up with this $30K figure. If you can explain, then please do.

I don't get your logic in being here. Do you want a new Camaro or are you just here to troll around or are you trying to maintain your faith in Ford by telling us this can't be done? If so, just hit the little red x in the top of the window, you haven't made any friends on this forum in your first few posts and I doubt you will unless you get off your "high" horse (pun intended).

[Sphinx002]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

Actually, it is well known that the reason why ford can keep the cost of a mustang GT under 30K is due to the SRA which is much cheaper to manufacture than an independent rear suspension. Also, I predict that dealers will try to price gouge this new V-8 camaro just like they've been doing on the new shelby cobra's. I just don't see the logic you're using to come up with this $30K figure. If you can explain, then please do.

[Captain Awesome]

The logic is simple. Under $30K is the number needed to really irritate Mustang fans!

[The_Blur]

$30k really isn't that low. We're not demanding a $25k Camaro. We're asking for a penny below $30k plus tax. That's fairly realistic, especially for a big seller.

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

Actually, it is well known that the reason why ford can keep the cost of a mustang GT under 30K is due to the SRA which is much cheaper to manufacture than an independent rear suspension. Also, I predict that dealers will try to price gouge this new V-8 camaro just like they've been doing on the new shelby cobra's. I just don't see the logic you're using to come up with this $30K figure. If you can explain, then please do.

MY logic in using the $30k figure? I pulled a random number out of my@$$ to make a point: No point to ask GM to charge more than we would like to pay. If they do charge more, then pay it if you have it/want to.
But why should the V8 Camaro cost $8k more than the GT? Other than being FAR superior?
GM has an opportunity, now; to provide a quality product that will dominate (again) the competition, AND to do it at a price that should embarass ford / dodge for trying to sell their merchandise at the same price.

[tony19118]

Originally Posted by chadrcr

But why should the V8 Camaro cost $8k more than the GT? Other than being FAR superior?
GM has an opportunity, now; to provide a quality product that will dominate (again) the competition, AND to do it at a price that should embarass ford / dodge for trying to sell their merchandise at the same price.

+1

[Justcallme61]

Originally Posted by chadrcr

MY logic in using the $30k figure? I pulled a random number out of my@$$ to make a point: No point to ask GM to charge more than we would like to pay. If they do charge more, then pay it if you have it/want to.
But why should the V8 Camaro cost $8k more than the GT? Other than being FAR superior?
GM has an opportunity, now; to provide a quality product that will dominate (again) the competition, AND to do it at a price that should embarass ford / dodge for trying to sell their merchandise at the same price.

Not to sound like I don't think the camaro wont be " far superior", but how do we KNOW that it will, in fact, be better than the new mustang? It's great and all that it will dominate the last gen (current), but what about when the new ones come out, with the possible twin turbo v6 (5.0 also, which should be cheap because it will be in mass supply, if they decide to use it in trucks too)? I don't think anyone really knows what the price of one of those would be exactly, but how will the camaro's v6 even compete if they're somewhat similar price tags? It seems like everyone keeps talking about how much better the camaro is, but there isn't a whole lot of info on the new mustang. I want to believe that it will be soo much better, but for now I don't think we should get our hopes up too high.

Just my .02. I don't really have a point, just thought I'd throw that out there. Sorry for off topic.

[SuprDispatchQuestionVisor]

Originally Posted by chadrcr

MY logic in using the $30k figure? I pulled a random number out of my@$$ to make a point: No point to ask GM to charge more than we would like to pay. If they do charge more, then pay it if you have it/want to.
But why should the V8 Camaro cost $8k more than the GT? Other than being FAR superior?
GM has an opportunity, now; to provide a quality product that will dominate (again) the competition, AND to do it at a price that should embarass ford / dodge for trying to sell their merchandise at the same price.

No one's asking GM to charge more...so...yea. I just explained that the suspension will definitely make it cost more. The killer motor and better transmission would also be reasons for this. And besides all of those GOOD reasons, there's economics. A company sells the most and makes the most money when supply meets demand. If they sell the car to cheap then there would be a huge demand for it, one which they could not fill. If you understood anything about this you would realize that GM can't make an infinite amount of these V-8's. So there are some more good reasons for you guys to sit on. Better yet, open a book and read about some of this stuff. From what I've seen posted here, some people might be dumbfounded by the way business works.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SuprDispatchQuestionVisor

From what I've seen posted here, some people might be dumbfounded by the way business works.

It works both ways, mister...you may be "dumbfounded" by how much of a performance value this car is really going to be. V8 = under or right at 30,000. It won't survive the marketplace any other way.

Let's agree to disagree for now, and let the media unvieling (or Indy) prove the victor in this discussion. Are you up for that?