03-27-2014, 05:29 PM | #29 |
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What's important here (to me at least) is that GM did not artificially protect the performance envelope of the new Corvette by choking down on the performance envelope of the Camaro. That is a paradigm shift. As such, it is expected the "crown" will go back and forth, and we are all winners in such a contest.
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03-27-2014, 05:32 PM | #30 | |
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03-27-2014, 05:41 PM | #31 |
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Its tail lights are ugly and it costs too much.
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03-27-2014, 06:31 PM | #32 | |
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Reminds me of '86-'87 when the Buick engineers intercooled the GN's 3.8 for more power (and also in 87 the GNX w/ way more power) and they were faster than the C4s. Granted performance in the 80s was meh at best but I remember reading articles about the Buick engineers having bumper stickers made for the test mules that said "I brake for Corvettes" lol. Pissed the Corvette engineers off. It's nice seeing GM not out to protect the "halo" car once again.
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03-27-2014, 08:54 PM | #33 | |
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There were quite a few changes made to the 2012 SS, One of which involved modifying the floor of the trunk, to accommodate relocated supsension parts. |
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03-27-2014, 09:17 PM | #34 | |
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03-27-2014, 10:00 PM | #35 |
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Looks like the Z/28 is a bargain after all. You could also conceivably put a blower on it too.
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03-28-2014, 06:07 AM | #36 |
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Sounds like the Z/28 the ran that day had the full A/C and stereo option.
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03-28-2014, 09:42 AM | #37 |
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And not to hammer this point, but this is why I will agree that the 1LE is just a package on the SS, but it is about the only package I have ever seen on a Camaro that completely redefines the car. It is not like the RS or 2SS packages. Neither of them redefine the car. Sorry for the rant!
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03-28-2014, 10:33 AM | #40 | |
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03-28-2014, 11:06 AM | #41 | |
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Check this board and elsewhere and you will easily read the angst in some people over which car to choose, and this is especially telling in the people who state they cannot afford the car and simply comment as unbiased observers. Such comments are telling because these people have no skin in the game either way, yet they are considering both cars. There are differences, but the sum of those differences do not create polar opposites to this buyer. Unless I required four passenger seating, I may lean one way or another, but I would still consider both under the same tent and within comparable performance envelopes. However, I agree with your comment that "[GM] does not need to protect the Corvette." My point was that there is a great temptation, unwise in my opinion, to do so. Yet GM allowed the Camaro engineers go out and do their thing as best they could, granting access to the Corvette Z06 engine as well as sharing the Brembo brake system with the Stingray Z06. I thank everyone involved in the decision to respect the wisdom found in creating a competitive internal culture. |
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03-28-2014, 12:09 PM | #42 |
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I want to see/drive the 2015 Stingray Z06 with the 8-speed automatic, that will be so cool to drive.
The Z/28 track tested against the 2015 Z06, now that would be interesting. |
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