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Old 10-10-2016, 09:47 AM   #57
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Do you have proof that the 5.2 Voodoo is "the worst flat plane crank motor in production"?

Even people who aren't crazy about the rest of the car give the motor the respect it deserves.
Why does a high redline impress you?

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Old 10-10-2016, 10:19 AM   #58
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Why does a high recline impress you?
Answer the question and I'll explain my point.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:38 AM   #59
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I would say that I do prefer Chevrolet although I'm not a fan boy. That said, I really don't see why people keep referring to the GT350 as "special". Maybe I live under a rock but I really don't care about a flat plane crank engine that's high revving, or maybe I should say that I don't see what's so special about it. No doubt it's probably a nice car, but it should be for the money dealers are asking for it.
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This is why you never go full fanboy. Haha
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:43 AM   #61
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Proof?
Yes. Look at every flat plane made and point out a worse one...that is the proof.
Considering the fact its the only non supercar flat plane crank engine, I don't think anyone actually expected it to be in the same league as those engines.

Being the worst MLB player means you are still better than the majority of people who ever played the game.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:50 AM   #62
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Considering the fact its the only non supercar flat plane crank engine, I don't think anyone actually expected it to be in the same league as those engines.

Being the worst MLB player means you are still better than the majority of people who ever played the game.
Exactly.

It's the fact that Ford put it in the hands of the common folk which makes it special.

I personally don't know how one couldn't drool over a ANY naturaly aspirated V8 with a 5.2L displacement pumping out 526hp at over 8K rpm. Is it the best flat plane v8 out there? Who cares, it's the only one that I could have the remote possibility of owning.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:51 AM   #63
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I would say that I do prefer Chevrolet although I'm not a fan boy. That said, I really don't see why people keep referring to the GT350 as "special". Maybe I live under a rock but I really don't care about a flat plane crank engine that's high revving, or maybe I should say that I don't see what's so special about it. No doubt it's probably a nice car, but it should be for the money dealers are asking for it.
Flat plane high reving 8s have been around for decades, the only thing "special" about it is that it is in a mustang.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:55 AM   #64
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Considering the fact its the only non supercar flat plane crank engine, I don't think anyone actually expected it to be in the same league as those engines.

Being the worst MLB player means you are still better than the majority of people who ever played the game.
I agree. It is a high preforming good car, I never disputed that. I simply think it is silly when people praise the car for the motor given it is nothing special. Praise it for track times and response or the engine being well suited for the car it is in. It was a good choice to put that engine in that car, but the engine stand alone is truly nothing special.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #65
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I drove my friends around town for an hour or so. It has the recaro seats which are pretty comfortable as far as the way they feel but they're way too tight against the legs (i get why, they're designed for the track) but it keeps it from being a fun DD. Its also a pain in the ass to get into those seats if you're 6'2 like I am.

It's got good power and the rev range is phenomenal.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:18 AM   #66
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I agree. It is a high preforming good car, I never disputed that. I simply think it is silly when people praise the car for the motor given it is nothing special. Praise it for track times and response or the engine being well suited for the car it is in. It was a good choice to put that engine in that car, but the engine stand alone is truly nothing special.
Using that logic, the engine itself has been around for over 100 years...therefore no engine is special.

Show me another domestic car that puts down 526 hp naturally aspirated. GM's ls7 puts down 505hp, but it takes an extra 1.8L displacement...and is still 21hp short.

In today's day and age...when everyone else is going superchaged, Ford dared to push the envelope. Keep in mind, the voodoo engine is going to be driven hard and put away wet. Many use these as their daily drivers, and as such...will need to last far longer than any other FPC v8 out there. Have you seen the service schedule for Ferrari's engines? They are not built for longevity. Hell, some models require to yank the engine every 30k miles to change the timing chain.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...h-maintenance/
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:33 AM   #67
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Using that logic, the engine itself has been around for over 100 years...therefore no engine is special.

Show me another domestic car that puts down 526 hp naturally aspirated. GM's ls7 puts down 505hp, but it takes an extra 1.8L displacement...and is still 21hp short.

In today's day and age...when everyone else is going superchaged, Ford dared to push the envelope. Keep in mind, the voodoo engine is going to be driven hard and put away wet. Many use these as their daily drivers, and as such...will need to last far longer than any other FPC v8 out there. Have you seen the service schedule for Ferrari's engines? They are not built for longevity. Hell, some models require to yank the engine every 30k miles to change the timing chain.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...h-maintenance/

I think u r missing the point given u drawing an unfit conclusion from my logic.
It is an unimpressive motor because it is out classed by EVERY flat plane currently in production.
A flat plane motor is not unimpressive because it is decades old, this one is unimpressive because it is nothing special.

While Chevy is pushing the envelope of what an OHV engine can do, Ford is laying back on what a FP can easily do. The LT1 and 4 are special because they are the best OHV engines made, the voodoo is not special.
Is the voodoo better than the LT is a different discussion, one I'm not currently informed enough on to participate in as more than a spectator, and highly subjective.
Find an OHV motor more advanced than LT? You will not. Find a flat plane more impressive than the voodoo? They are everywhere.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:34 AM   #68
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Regrettably I have to side with MFB on this. The Voodoo engine really is pretty awesome. I would take a GT350R over any currently available Camaro as my track car if I could afford one.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:38 AM   #69
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I think u r missing the point given u drawing an unfit conclusion from my logic.
It is an unimpressive motor because it is out classed by EVERY flat plane currently in production.
A flat plane motor is not unimpressive because it is decades old, this one is unimpressive because it is nothing special.

While Chevy is pushing the envelope of what an OHV engine can do, Ford is laying back on what a FP can easily do. The LT1 and 4 are special because they are the best OHV engines made, the voodoo is not special.
Is the voodoo better than the LT is a different discussion, one I'm not currently informed enough on to participate in as more than a spectator, and highly subjective.
Find an OHV motor more advanced than LT? You will not. Find a flat plane more impressive than the voodoo? They are everywhere.

It's special because it's in a domestic car that's relatively affordable. A domestic car that's KILLING on the track. And I'm throwing in again that it's affordable. The fact that you are throwing Ferrari into this conversation about a Ford Mustang is a win for Ford.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:42 AM   #70
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I think u r missing the point given u drawing an unfit conclusion from my logic.
It is an unimpressive motor because it is out classed by EVERY flat plane currently in production.
A flat plane motor is not unimpressive because it is decades old, this one is unimpressive because it is nothing special.

While Chevy is pushing the envelope of what an OHV engine can do, Ford is laying back on what a FP can easily do. The LT1 and 4 are special because they are the best OHV engines made, the voodoo is not special.
Is the voodoo better than the LT is a different discussion, one I'm not currently informed enough on to participate in as more than a spectator, and highly subjective.
Find an OHV motor more advanced than LT? You will not. Find a flat plane more impressive than the voodoo? They are everywhere.
I wouldn't exactly call them the best OHV motor ever made. Maybe from the factory but thats about. The 351 I had in my fastback with a set of heads and cam made close to what these LT1s are. The biggest advantage the OHV has over the other is weight and package size.
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