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Old 09-20-2010, 04:30 PM   #127
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I chose to compare the EVo8 because thats the one you reference homey.

Still doesn`t run but a 13.1 in the 1/4. Camaro SS 12.9 in the 1/4, have a nice day my brotha..


As far as 60mph goes, i know of no race track that you only run to 60mph... Racing on the street is illegal.
reading is a skill cuz. i didn't reference that 1. you just took it like that..(not sure why) even after the link was posted to clarify. maybe your just BLINDED by anything not GM.
i would never own the evo but still can't deny the numbers for under 50k.i will clarify again the car in the video
vs the other 3 wins on the street or around the track. end of story; let's just move on here.i have a friend who happens to be a GM at a local MIZU dealership and he stated the car in the video will come to the us in 2012 for under 50k.


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Define cheap money. Dont forget that up unitl the evo x, that the evo was a piece of shit economy car stuffed with awd and a turbo. Nothing more. Looked like shit, sounded like shit, has shit interior, and an all around generic feel.

The evo x is a nicer car though...must be why everyone bags on it.
Huh? The EVO IX would have no problem on a track running circles around the pony cars...And it would be pretty close in the 1/4 too
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Huh? The EVO IX would have no problem on a track running circles around the pony cars...And it would be pretty close in the 1/4 too
He didn't say the IX's were slow
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:45 PM   #131
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Thats why its called a Challenger and not a Champion..

And Camaro is rumored to mean a small shrimp like creature in the spanish dictionary. Does SS mean Small Shrimp...lol!!?? j/k

I just think it's funny how a lot of folks on forums are talking about HP and all of that crap when this is probably the first "muscle car" that they have ever owned. Now everyone has the need for speed and are talking about what can beat what...just enjoy the ride. Anyone should feel privileged to own any of the three ponies and they all have something unique and exciting to offer.
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He didn't say the IX's were slow
Well, calling it an "economy car" isn't exactly praising its performance. But maybe I'm overanalyzing things...
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Well, calling it an "economy car" isn't exactly praising its performance. But maybe I'm overanalyzing things...
... "stuffed with awd and a turbo"

Did you happen to miss that part?
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:05 PM   #134
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i posted the evo was ugly. i was just making a fact about it's still capable of posting big numbers for cheap money.

so what r u arguing about????? ive posted facts

-gmrule-shardcik-usmc: umm i've owned many hi line cars in my life with real world SPEED capabilities.. most of the guys who post on here only post what they read in some mag and haven't driven the cars they post about. TOO FUNNY!


for the last time WATCH the vid
http://bullit.ditttos.com/general/to...vs-lamborghini
and tell me any of those 3 cars will beat the evo in the video JEEZ! STOCK VS STOCK
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Huh? The EVO IX would have no problem on a track running circles around the pony cars...And it would be pretty close in the 1/4 too
Below are the "Lightening Lap" results from Virginia International Raceway (4.2 mile Grand Course)

2006 Chevrolet Corvette 3:09.3 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2006 Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 3:09.5 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 BMW M6 3:10.0 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2007 BMW 335i Coupe 3:10.5 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Audi S4 3:10.8 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2007 Audi RS 4 3:11.2 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2007 BMW M Coupe 3:11.7 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Nissan NISMO 370Z 3:12.0 Crashed during lapping Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Nissan 350Z Track 3:12.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:13.0 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.3 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2010 Ford Mustang GT Track pack 3:13.3 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Mitsubishi EVO MR 3:13.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 BMW 135i 3:13.7 Nov 2008 Car & Driver

I don't know what EVO generation these were but I don't see them running circles around the pony cars.
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Below are the "Lightening Lap" results from Virginia International Raceway (4.2 mile Grand Course)

2006 Chevrolet Corvette 3:09.3 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2006 Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 3:09.5 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 BMW M6 3:10.0 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2007 BMW 335i Coupe 3:10.5 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Audi S4 3:10.8 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2007 Audi RS 4 3:11.2 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2007 BMW M Coupe 3:11.7 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Nissan NISMO 370Z 3:12.0 Crashed during lapping Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Nissan 350Z Track 3:12.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:13.0 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.3 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2010 Ford Mustang GT Track pack 3:13.3 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Mitsubishi EVO MR 3:13.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 BMW 135i 3:13.7 Nov 2008 Car & Driver

I don't know what EVO generation these were but I don't see them running circles around the pony cars.
Thought I should maybe point that out too.. And it didn't even have AWD.
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... "stuffed with awd and a turbo"

Did you happen to miss that part?
Well next time maybe I'll call a zr1 an economy car stuffed with a blower since it has a cheap interior. Now do you catch my drift? It doesn't sound like I think of the zr1 as a sports car, even though it clearly is...
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Below are the "Lightening Lap" results from Virginia International Raceway (4.2 mile Grand Course)

2006 Chevrolet Corvette 3:09.3 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2006 Porsche Cayman S 3:09.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 3:09.5 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 BMW M6 3:10.0 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2007 BMW 335i Coupe 3:10.5 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Audi S4 3:10.8 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2007 Audi RS 4 3:11.2 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2007 BMW M Coupe 3:11.7 Aug 2007 Car & Driver
2010 Nissan NISMO 370Z 3:12.0 Crashed during lapping Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Nissan 350Z Track 3:12.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 3:13.0 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR 3:13.3 Nov 2008 Car & Driver
2010 Ford Mustang GT Track pack 3:13.3 Feb 2010 Car & Driver
2006 Mitsubishi EVO MR 3:13.5 Nov 2006 Car & Driver
2008 BMW 135i 3:13.7 Nov 2008 Car & Driver

I don't know what EVO generation these were but I don't see them running circles around the pony cars.
Don't even know if that 2006 is an EVO IX or not...

And I can cherry pick lap times too, but I think I'll take the 'ring

104. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 8:11 151 '05 290 / 1482 Best Motoring
105. Porsche 993 Turbo 3.6 factory kit 8:12 151 '97 430 / 1506 sportauto
106. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8:12 151 '02 476 / 1855 Sport Auto
107. Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 '99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
108. Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 '05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
109. BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 '05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
110. Ferrari F355 8:13 150 '95 380 / 1350
111. Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 '07 457 / 1772 sport auto
112. Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 '04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
113. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 '06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
114. Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150 '07 360 / 1626 sportauto
115. Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 '04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
116. RUF BR2 EKS 8:15 150 '92 360 / 1355 sportauto
117. Alpina Z4 Roadster S 8:15 150 '03 300 / 1416 sportauto
118. RUF CTR2 8:15 150 '97 520 / 1422 AutoCar
119. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR 8:15 150 '05 290 / 1455 Best Motoring
120. Aston Martin DB9 8:16 150 '04 450 / 1710 Sport Auto
121. BMW M6 Cabrio 8:16,52 150 '07 507 / 1930 Wolfgang Kaufmann
122. Honda NSX 3.0 (1991) 8:16.15 149 '91 274 / 1362 Motoharu Kurosawa (b
123. Renault Megane R26.R 8:16.90 149 '08 230 / 1252 Vincent Bayle
124. Porsche 996 Carrera 8:17 149 '97 300 / 1320 Sport Auto
125. Porsche 996 Carrera 320hp 8:17 149 '01 320 / 1345 Sport Auto
126. Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 8:17 149 '01 460 / 1882 Sport Auto
127. BMW Z8 8:18 149 '00 400 / 1585 "Sport Auto"
128. Chevrolet Corvette C5 Comm. Edition Targa 8:18 149 '04 344 / 1452 Sportauto
129. Maserati Coupe GranSport 8:18 149 '04 400 / 1680 Sport Auto
130. Lexus IS F 8:18 149 '07 423 / 1732 Sport Auto
131. Porsche Boxster S (facelift) 8:18 149 '09 310 / 1380 sportauto
132. Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp) 8:18.00 149 '05 280 / 1345 Walter Rohl
133. Audi RS6 (C5) 8:20 148 '02 450 / 1840
134. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 8:20 148 '10 432 / 1750 Chevrolet test team
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Don't even know if that 2006 is an EVO IX or not...

And I can cherry pick lap times too, but I think I'll take the 'ring

104. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 8:11 151 '05 290 / 1482 Best Motoring
105. Porsche 993 Turbo 3.6 factory kit 8:12 151 '97 430 / 1506 sportauto
106. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8:12 151 '02 476 / 1855 Sport Auto
107. Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8:13 150 '99 354 / 1324 Sport Auto
108. Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13 150 '05 506 / 1600 Sport Auto
109. BMW M5 (E60) 8:13 150 '05 507 / 1848 Sport Auto
110. Ferrari F355 8:13 150 '95 380 / 1350
111. Mercedes C 63 AMG 8:13 150 '07 457 / 1772 sport auto
112. Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:14 150 '04 612 / 2049 Sport Auto
113. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 8:14 150 '06 400 / 1506 Sport Auto
114. Alpina B3 Biturbo 8:14 150 '07 360 / 1626 sportauto
115. Porsche 997 Carrera 8:15 150 '04 325 / 1395 Walter Rƶhrl
116. RUF BR2 EKS 8:15 150 '92 360 / 1355 sportauto
117. Alpina Z4 Roadster S 8:15 150 '03 300 / 1416 sportauto
118. RUF CTR2 8:15 150 '97 520 / 1422 AutoCar
119. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR 8:15 150 '05 290 / 1455 Best Motoring
120. Aston Martin DB9 8:16 150 '04 450 / 1710 Sport Auto
121. BMW M6 Cabrio 8:16,52 150 '07 507 / 1930 Wolfgang Kaufmann
122. Honda NSX 3.0 (1991) 8:16.15 149 '91 274 / 1362 Motoharu Kurosawa (b
123. Renault Megane R26.R 8:16.90 149 '08 230 / 1252 Vincent Bayle
124. Porsche 996 Carrera 8:17 149 '97 300 / 1320 Sport Auto
125. Porsche 996 Carrera 320hp 8:17 149 '01 320 / 1345 Sport Auto
126. Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 8:17 149 '01 460 / 1882 Sport Auto
127. BMW Z8 8:18 149 '00 400 / 1585 "Sport Auto"
128. Chevrolet Corvette C5 Comm. Edition Targa 8:18 149 '04 344 / 1452 Sportauto
129. Maserati Coupe GranSport 8:18 149 '04 400 / 1680 Sport Auto
130. Lexus IS F 8:18 149 '07 423 / 1732 Sport Auto
131. Porsche Boxster S (facelift) 8:18 149 '09 310 / 1380 sportauto
132. Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp) 8:18.00 149 '05 280 / 1345 Walter Rohl
133. Audi RS6 (C5) 8:20 148 '02 450 / 1840
134. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 8:20 148 '10 432 / 1750 Chevrolet test team
Except that's not a production Camaro. That run was during development in summer of 2008. First production cars rolled off the line nearly 1 year later. That car was still in testing. At least the VIR times are production cars by the same test group (Car and Driver) with the same methodology. These Nurburgring times are comparing a Japanese auto mag to the Chevrolet TEST team.

I'm still waiting for you to show me the part where it runs circles around the pony cars...
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