05-18-2013, 10:12 PM | #127 |
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This is what was condescending. Don't throw a grenade in a room and run out... then when someone reacts you claim they are acting up? We purists want to see how much of the 3 seconds (vs ZL1) is attributable to only the Tires and Brakes. Or just the Tires. Logical question. No need to deflect on what the question is. Do you know the answer? If not, you just don't get it and that's ok too! |
05-18-2013, 10:13 PM | #128 | |
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In the long run, I don't think they will finalize a Z/28 that "under-performs" the Zl-1, no matter what it takes to accomplish that. In fact, I think they've got their sites set on a lot bigger fish in the track world... |
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05-18-2013, 10:13 PM | #129 |
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Gawd, the point flew past you. Same tires or same class of tires makes a fair comparison of the engineers accomplishments improving a car chassis. If you want to compare two camaros modifications, compare them with same rubber. Both f1 supercar g2 or both trofeos.
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05-18-2013, 10:18 PM | #130 | |
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Inquiring (& buying minds) want to know! |
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05-18-2013, 10:20 PM | #131 | |
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05-18-2013, 10:25 PM | #132 | |
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My issue was with the decision by gm to try to market the z28 against the zl1 with the 3 second claim. Its is the same as if the 1LE had be lapped with trofeos and then gm claimed it was the better designed track car, people would think twice about that and say "impossible.". While I think the z28 is the better track car, I still wanna see them lap the zl1 with trofeos and post those results, bet they are too scared to do such a simple, inexpensive test. Well.......gm engineers.....waiting????
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05-18-2013, 10:29 PM | #133 | |
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Grenade? Not understanding your use of the word purist? The thing is I don't care if the ZL1 outperforms the Z/28 it's not what I'm looking for. As a matter in fact I never expected the Z/28 to outperform the ZL1. Just like I wont ever take it to the drags. Not my thing. I want a drivers car not a S'Charged GT or a 1/4 miler.
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05-18-2013, 10:31 PM | #134 |
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Putting slicks on a car is a marketing decision. If other manufacturers started putting slick compound tired on production cars and making claims of being better than the competitors performance number, you would have a weird cold war that results in all sports car having tires that last two months after purchase...but stick really well.
Gm design or even aid in engineering these tires. They signed a contract to supply that tire with that car.
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05-18-2013, 10:41 PM | #136 | |
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This to me is much more important than just tires.... “We used the very best components in the industry to deliver uncompromised performance, lap after lap,” said Mark Stielow, Camaro Z/28 engineering manager. “We made nearly 200 changes to improve the track performance, which cumulatively make the Z/28 capable of 1.05 g in cornering. For perspective, with all other things, equal increasing maximum grip from 1 to 1.05 g can cut up to four seconds per lap.” The Camaro Z/28 is the one of the first production cars fitted with race-proven, spool-valve dampers. Compared to a conventional damper that offers only two-way tuning for bump and rebound, a spool-valve damper allows four-way adjustment to precisely tune both bump and rebound settings for high-speed and low-speed wheel motions. The wider tuning range allowed engineers to dramatically increase the damper stiffness on the Camaro Z/28 without a significant change in ride quality. Additional chassis changes include stiffer string rates and suspension bushings for improved cornering response. |
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05-18-2013, 10:42 PM | #138 |
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