Who's holding out for the Supercharged LSA?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Ok. Thanks for sharing. All my relatives are alive and kicking here. You believe it's dead. We believe it's been put off....for a better lack of words.

If you didn't notice, Cheryl was quoted as saying there will be no Z28. The entire Camaro community world had a heart attack and time stood still.

Days went by and it was anarchy amongst the boards. Then, Scott came in and put all the fires to rest saying he "couldn't comment about future projects." So.....could it be in GM's future" Sure!

[Captainbob]

Originally Posted by radz282003

Welcome Cap'

Although I'm sure that you've seen there can be serious power made with the OEM crank', but you'll have to go through the rods and the pistons, as you've implied. Regarding the other forged internals comment, perhaps you may have missed that a lot of the LSA will come with very durable components, including a forged crank. I can't be sure about the rods, but I know they aren't the titanium rods found in the LS9 or LS7. The pistons, too, will be cast, however, I think if we are lucky enough to get the foundation of the LSA, we'll be looking pretty good.

However, I've said it in many other posts, that I agree with you about supercharging from the factory. I like the idea that you Cobra and GT500 owers have just been able to swap and exhaust, pulley, CAI, and tune and get like an easy 500-600 horsepower, and not melt the motor down. I hope we can do that because where I am, smog laws suck, and law enforcement looks for any reason to pull you over to peek under the hood, whether or not you were engaged in any questionable activity. Regardless, the less conspicuous I can be, and still get great power and reliability, the happier I'll be.

Come on GM

Just wanted to thank radz28, and thanks 2 tagurit, I appreciate the info, and couldn't agree with you more.
I'm hoping that with alot of folks voicing their opinions here, and maybe some insiders can help us in our quest to make a "supercar camaro" a reality.. It's long over due IMO, and GM has really missed the boat as Ford has dominated the car class, and generated huge revenue with the mustang. Sorry to say. GM lost alot of revenue and now sales of dropped for GM by 24% last quarter or so.
So having said that keep the good stuff coming! Thanks again for the info.. Just am really hoping that I'm not going to have to dig into the internals ie' swap pistons, and rods in order to bolt on some nice hp gains.. The new Camaro has the look, class, and suspension.. Now lets seal the deal with the power to go with it!

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

<quote>spoke with someone that says you are dead wrong..and I work for GM and he works in Chevrolet Performance Powertrain development....

Think...

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what part of ctsv do you not see?

and this is on about 4 or 5 forums (from me)

I did not ask the z28 question..someone else incorporated it into a multi part question of their own.

Like I said..."I'm just sharing"

I know what he said and he said it with conviction.

That quote was in direct response to you saying the supercharged or Z28 Camaro is dead. He's using the CTSV as an example to suggest that you are "Dead Wrong". His words not mine.

And as of now you are a completely full of . Someone else asked him about the Z28?

I thought no-one else pumped him on the camaro but you?

At least that's what you say in this post....

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

There was only 10 of us at the breakfast...including my wife.....and it was mostly corvette freaks so no-one else pumped him on the camaro but me.
You know.....I hope Ed lied to me for some internal corporate reason.......for you.
Me.....I'll be keeping my GTO....


Honest man...no BS

No apology needed...I'm just sharing.

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

he immediately went into the "volt" and hybrid gas high performance stance.

Society is going to have to show a different face.
They (GM) WILL NOT stand for an ill received Z28.
GM would rather not produce it. or risk it.
It seems like we slapped them around on the GTO name thing (and other things I'm sure).... and THEY are still flinching. twitching...stinging

Now THAT is JMO. (derived from watching him and listening)

This would be version number four of your interpretation of his statements.

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

I feel like I just ran over one of your relatives....guys.....I said I'm sorry...and I'm sorry.

You are a troll and I don't believe you are sorry. When GM announces there will not be a Z28 then I will concede and move on. Until then I'm keeping the faith as Scott has instructed me to do.

It's been two weeks since you broke this story and NO-ONE has picked it up. At least two other people have confirmed to you that this is HUGE news. Yet you refuse to comment on the significance of your story. So you've posted it on four other sites... And still no-one believes you or can confirm what you claim.

Well done, you hooked me for two days. I'm breaking the line now.

I can't believe I f@(%#d around with you this long.

I should take my own advice sometimes.

You can't convince a liar they are lying.
you can't argue with someone who is never wrong.
You can't educate someone who knows everything.
You can't prove some one's claims if they expect you to take their word for it.

But, more importantly, you can't let them rob you of your happiness and peace of mind.

In light of this I'm done with you.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Ok. Thanks for sharing. All my relatives are alive and kicking here. You believe it's dead. We believe it's been put off....for a better lack of words.

If you didn't notice, Cheryl was quoted as saying there will be no Z28. The entire Camaro community world had a heart attack and time stood still.

Days went by and it was anarchy amongst the boards. Then, Scott came in and put all the fires to rest saying he "couldn't comment about future projects." So.....could it be in GM's future" Sure!

As well as Cheryl emailing the writer to clarify her statements, which were later published as a correction.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Captainbob

Just wanted to thank radz28, and thanks 2 tagurit, I appreciate the info, and couldn't agree with you more.
I'm hoping that with alot of folks voicing their opinions here, and maybe some insiders can help us in our quest to make a "supercar camaro" a reality.. It's long over due IMO, and GM has really missed the boat as Ford has dominated the car class, and generated huge revenue with the mustang. Sorry to say. GM lost alot of revenue and now sales of dropped for GM by 24% last quarter or so.
So having said that keep the good stuff coming! Thanks again for the info.. Just am really hoping that I'm not going to have to dig into the internals ie' swap pistons, and rods in order to bolt on some nice hp gains.. The new Camaro has the look, class, and suspension.. Now lets seal the deal with the power to go with it!:headbang:

X2 !!!

[radz28]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

That quote was in direct response to you saying the supercharged or Z28 Camaro is dead. He's using the CTSV as an example to suggest that you are "Dead Wrong". His words not mine.

And as of now you are a completely full of . Someone else asked him about the Z28?

I thought no-one else pumped him on the camaro but you?

At least that's what you say in this post....





This would be version number four of your interpretation of his statements.



You are a troll and I don't believe you are sorry. When GM announces there will not be a Z28 then I will concede and move on. Until then I'm keeping the faith as Scott has instructed me to do.

It's been two weeks since you broke this story and NO-ONE has picked it up. At least two other people have confirmed to you that this is HUGE news. Yet you refuse to comment on the significance of your story. So you've posted it on four other sites... And still no-one believes you or can confirm what you claim.

Well done, you hooked me for two days. I'm breaking the line now.

I can't believe I f@(%#d around with you this long.

I should take my own advice sometimes.

You can't convince a liar they are lying.
you can't argue with someone who is never wrong.
You can't educate someone who knows everything.
You can't prove some one's claims if they expect you to take their word for it.

But, more importantly, you can't let them rob you of your happiness and peace of mind.

In light of this I'm done with you.

It would look silly for me to highlight what I agree with since I agree with the entire post. :troll: :sm2: OWNED!

[Wm Holden]

Originally Posted by radz282003

What do you mean by this exaclty? Like, did he smerk like, "No; we aren't doing a Z28 - wink wink nudge nudge."

Regarding the GTO, it was really nothing like the GTOs of the past. There were hardly styling cues I could easily recognize and distinguish as GTO-styles from the past. IMHO, it was these factors in addition to dealers completely raping (I do not mean to deminish the actual meaning of this phrase) buyers by adding mark-ups. It's no wonder they weren't more popular! I don't think that is a fair comparison...

Not wink wink...but "ouch this subject matter pains me"
I think his shoulders raised and he actually cringed...maybe he had gas and I misinterpreted the whole thing.(not)





same subject different note:

My wife could not care less about cars...but she was there and she and I have not discussed the meeting because...well...the GTO is enough of a time consuming thing in her mind without bringing other cars into the situation.
But last night while clacking away at you...I asked her..."do you remember when at the meeting Ed said there would be no production supercharged camaro?"

"Yes" she replies.... (me) "well look at these guys, they act like I'm trying to kill their GOD or something"

So she reads through your posts and chuckles...agreeing that you are way high strung about it. (Fanatical?) (like I am about MY GTO)(so I don't blame you a bit for keeping the faith)

If you are excited about "inconsistencies" in my story....they are there just because I DON"T CARE ENOUGH TO BE CAREFUL.

and the punctuation of the e-mails? I cut and pasted them out of my mail box...(so that's all GM baby)
considered correcting the spelling and such...BUT I DON'T CARE ENOUGH.

She thinks you guys are funny with your commitment to the idea of a supercharged camaro.....
Hats off to you though. I look forward to meeting up with you guys at car shows, meets, around town, and the TRACK!

Passion is a GOOD thing to have.

Keep it safe and for Gods sake.....HAVE FUN!

as far as I'm concerned a "Holden is a Holden" and you guys are welcome at SeaSideGoats GTG anytime.

seasidegoats.com

[Wm Holden]

at 4 minutes into this video Magnuson says he will build you guys a supercharger if GM will not
I know it's re-post but it seems a lot of you missed it.




Video

[Captainbob]

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

at 4 minutes into this video Magnuson says he will build you guys a supercharger if GM will not
I know it's re-post but it seems a lot of you missed it.





Video

So will he warranty? Will he have pully size options? Will he have tunes readily available for uploading/emailing onto a handheld tuner? What kind of tuner does he use? SCT, Diablo..? ie: 91oct, 92 oct, 93oct, 100oct, C116 octane, Race tunes? So if folks decide to go with his set up the can make the necesarry adjustments.. What will be the his optimum A/F?? Will there be larger throttle bodies? Monoblade? Give us some details please..

[Wm Holden]

Originally Posted by Captainbob

So will he warranty? Will he have pully size options? Will he have tunes readily available for uploading/emailing onto a handheld tuner? What kind of tuner does he use? SCT, Diablo..? ie: 91oct, 92 oct, 93oct, 100oct, C116 octane, Race tunes? So if folks decide to go with his set up the can make the necesarry adjustments.. What will be the his optimum A/F?? Will there be larger throttle bodies? Monoblade? Give us some details please..

Yes warranty
yes pulley options
dunno about the tuner call them
91 minimum is common
the stock T/B was used on mine...upside down
much yet to be determined...the G8 has just gotten sorted out...so....

it's a wait and see kinda thing right now.

[Mindz]

Seems like a viable alternative if no Z comes out. I strongly think we should all wait until at least December before continuing the convo though. By then pricing should be out and I'm sure there will be more rumors or maybe even an official agreement from the big 3 that talk to the general public (scott, ed, cheryl). So far, scott and Cheryl say there won't be a Z28 at launch but it's not dead, so there's a chance. Ed says never. It might be a case of left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Let's be optimistic on both sides of opinions, k?

[Captainbob]

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

Yes warranty
yes pulley options
dunno about the tuner call them
91 minimum is common
the stock T/B was used on mine...upside down
much yet to be determined...the G8 has just gotten sorted out...so....

it's a wait and see kinda thing right now.

Thank you sir.. Just curious your running high 11's. What is you best time? What gears? Your info is much appreciated. If your in the high 11's thats good stuff. How much invested into the upgrade?
Thanks again

[Wm Holden]

$6700 installed

I'll post up atime slip tommorrow.
G'nite!

[Wm Holden]