L99 AFM -- It's REALLY a tough choice, for some. Step Inside.

[detroitboy]

Originally Posted by gunslinger

Is there something in the lifters that makes them have problems with high lift cams, or maybe the system that distributes/controls the oil for the lifters is not compatible with a more radical lobe design.

I think the cam is the main difference between the two motors and that is where your 22 HP comes from.

If the lifters in the L99 are limited (or heavier) from the factory than the LS3 is for me.

I had a long conversation with an engineer from Eaton on this subject. They designed the valvetrain for the L99. To make a long story short....I went with the manual and LS3 as a result of that conversation. He was not happy with the valvetrain as it came out, and indicated that doing anything to change it (cams) would result in a bigger pile of worms than most people would want to get into because of all the programming that went along with the system. I'd hate to be the guinea pig on this system....hence save the $1000 and go with the manual with that beautifull easy to push clutch

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

I'd just like to point out that you say you don't want the car thinking for itself when you're out playing around. That's why I buy stick cars.

I also like to go fast. which is why I go auto

Originally Posted by 69 Hugger

I'd like to see GM let you build your camaro "Ala-Carte Anybody out there got any juice with GM to pitch an Ala-Carte Camaro Wasn't there a Chevy commercial a few years back ? "Have It Your Way At JKJ Chevrolet" I'll be humming that the rest of the night.

They had a thing back in the day.... it was called COPO. lol

Originally Posted by catmaster1

When i ordered my car i think it was $900-1000 less for the manual than the auto. The other thing to keep in mind is if you are planning to drive the car at high speeds 120+, the integrity of the auto wont be there. In fact i believe that is why they put speed limiters on the auto's. So the tranny dont grenade on ya at triple digits.

you need to do some research before you post. the reason the computer controlled speeds are what they are is due to the speed ratings of the tires.
the auto trans that they have put in this car will deal with plenty of power from the car. unless you are drag racing non stop with a trailer hooked to the car, the auto will go just as fast as the manual. +/- .1~.2 sec.

[69 Hugger]

Originally Posted by detroitboy

I had a long conversation with an engineer from Eaton on this subject. They designed the valvetrain for the L99. To make a long story short....I went with the manual and LS3 as a result of that conversation. He was not happy with the valvetrain as it came out, and indicated that doing anything to change it (cams) would result in a bigger pile of worms than most people would want to get into because of all the programming that went along with the system. I'd hate to be the guinea pig on this system....hence save the $1000 and go with the manual with that beautifull easy to push clutch

I'm with ya all the way with going with the manual, Yesterday I was behind a mustang sounded good for a ford It's raining the light turn green and stang revs and car jumps sideways going up a little incline. Started day dreaming about driving a manual camaro again with a bit more HP. Can't drive a stick anymore because of motor cycle crash, So GM for the crash guys the old guys that don't like the manuals give up the Ala-Carte Camaro Saying Ls3 just sounds better not to mention the after market goodies.