BESIDES ZAINO what wax would be best for yellow!

[Junkman2008]

The most important word in your post is the word "some". It is more of a generalization, but not "the letter of the law". Still an interesting read.

[Angelo@Autopia]

So what is the letter of the law?

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by Mr G

So what is the letter of the law?

Well, according to your post, there is no letter of the law. It is more a case of "some conditions" or "a few". Nothing is set in stone. That's a safe way for you to word it as the Machine Superwax is contradictory to what you posted about some sealants. Again, the word "some" is the key word to consider when reading your post. At first glance, I would beg to differ but after reading it a few times, I can appreciate it for what it is.

[Angelo@Autopia]

Very strange when the OP that started this thread ask about Zanio and waxes and all I posted was about the difference of the 2 products.

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by Mr G

Very strange when the OP that started this thread ask about Zanio and waxes and all I posted was about the difference of the 2 products.

That's cool, I'm not being critical or anything. Just expressing an opinion, like you did.

[Angelo@Autopia]

That's cool, it's all to help out everyone.

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by Mr G

That's cool, it's all to help out everyone.

[2LTRS]

Holy thread dig!

[x626xBlack]

I like being able to buy a good product from a specialty shop. OTC does not have to be Turtle wax from Auto-Zone.... I bought Zymol Carbon from a Raching specialty shop in Louisiana. I was planning on doing this tomorrow. I hate products I HAVE to buy over the internet.

Can anyone help me out. Is there a place in Houston that sells Adam's products. Website says San Antonio or Mckenny. That dog wont hunt.

NW side would be perfect but I wouldn't mind a short cruise to pick it up.

[Viral]

Originally Posted by Mr G

Very strange when the OP that started this thread ask about Zanio and waxes and all I posted was about the difference of the 2 products.

I said basically the exact same thing to junkman several months back by pointing out that carnauba waxes had more depth of shine but far less durability than a synthetic sealant to counter his claim that "more carnauba content equals more durability everytime". He then replied saying 'allow me to school you on waxes' and quoted wikipedia or something on the textbook definition of carnauba waxes, about how it was the strongest wax known to man. He completely missed the point that it wasn't being compared another wax, that durability was exactly the reason synthetic polymers were created. Once he stood by the claim that carnaubas "far far outlast any synthetic", I just laughed off his supposed genius in detailing products.

Looks like he's still not doing his research I'm glad to see somebody else here is.

[2LTRS]

Originally Posted by Viral

I said basically the exact same thing to junkman several months back by pointing out that carnauba waxes had more depth of shine but far less durability than a synthetic sealant to counter his claim that "more carnauba content equals more durability everytime". He then replied saying 'allow me to school you on waxes' and quoted wikipedia or something on the textbook definition of carnauba waxes, about how it was the strongest wax known to man. He completely missed the point that it wasn't being compared another wax, that durability was exactly the reason synthetic polymers were created. Once he stood by the claim that carnaubas "far far outlast any synthetic", I just laughed off his supposed genius in detailing products.

Looks like he's still not doing his research I'm glad to see somebody else here is.

"more carnauba content equals more durability everytime"

I cant find that in any of AJ's posts... Hmmm

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by 2LTRS

"more carnauba content equals more durability everytime"

I cant find that in any of AJ's posts... Hmmm

He's still upset that I exploited his way of thinking on which leather product was the better deal.

That's okay Viral, I have no disdain with you whatsoever. Just make sure that you don't park next to me at a open car show. I will be more than happy to use your car as an example of what not to do!

[Viral]

Originally Posted by 2LTRS

"more carnauba content equals more durability everytime"

I cant find that in any of AJ's posts... Hmmm

You couldn't? You didn't look very hard, since you were in that thread too. Here you go. I'll save you the trouble so you can go fly your BS flag over his posts, not mine.

Originally Posted by Junkman2008

I say yes it [Americana] not only last longer, but significantly longer! [compared to Zaino Z2]

Americana contains way more carnuba than the Buttery Wax and will last significantly longer. More carnuba equals better and longer lasting protection.

Junkman, I don't have any disdain for you either. You seem like a truly nice guy and we've established before that you're obviously a good detailer, but most people on here seem to think it's wrong to ever question you or call you out when you're wrong. You're not right all the time, nobody is. And in this particular case, you're not right. I happened to be the one to call you out on it. That doesn't make me an ass, it doesn't mean you need to threaten to wreck my car when you see me. I'm simply correcting your bad information for others here that rely on it so completely.

If you keep telling people that Carnauba waxes are more durable than synthetic polymer sealants and mock me for challenging that, you're doing everyone a disservice by spreading false information. I tried to tell you before and everyone got mad at me for questioning you. Mr G told you the exact same thing and you mocked him as well, calling it an "interesting read" but not 'the letter of the law'. People have a ton of respect for you here, and that means they tend to believe whatever you say. So I think it's very important to make sure what you say is accurate, and the fact is, what Mr G said IS the "letter of the law". It's chemistry. You were stating opinions, he was stating facts. There was no opinion in his post.

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by Viral

You couldn't? You didn't look very hard, since you were in that thread too. Here you go. I'll save you the trouble so you can go fly your BS flag over his posts, not mine.



Junkman, I don't have any disdain for you either. You seem like a truly nice guy and we've established before that you're obviously a good detailer, but most people on here seem to think it's wrong to ever question you or call you out when you're wrong. You're not right all the time, nobody is. And in this particular case, you're not right. I happened to be the one to call you out on it. That doesn't make me an ass, it doesn't mean you need to threaten to wreck my car when you see me. I'm simply correcting your bad information for others here that rely on it so completely.

If you keep telling people that Carnauba waxes are more durable than synthetic polymer sealants and mock me for challenging that, you're doing everyone a disservice by spreading false information. I tried to tell you before and everyone got mad at me for questioning you. Mr G told you the exact same thing and you mocked him as well, calling it an "interesting read" but not 'the letter of the law'. People have a ton of respect for you here, and that means they tend to believe whatever you say. So I think it's very important to make sure what you say is accurate, and the fact is, what Mr G said IS the "letter of the law". It's chemistry. You were stating opinions, he was stating facts. There was no opinion in his post.

There are two points that you have made that totally take what I said and totally twist my words. Buttery Wax is a synthetic blend. Americana is a carnuba paste. I said that Americana last longer than Buttery Wax because of its carnuba content. I never said that Americana will outlast all synthetic blends because Adam's website clearly states that the Machine Superwax (MSW) is the longest lasting protection that Adam's has. MSW is a synthetic polymer sealant! That would totally contradict what I tell people who are looking for the best protection that Adam's has to offer. What you are doing is trying to twist my words.

I had no problem with what Mr G posted after I read it a few times as some of the things in his post were at first, contrary to what I know. After carefully reading it I saw that due to the way it was worded, it made sense. That's what made it "interesting" to me. Was that wrong? I didn't criticize his post or his advice, I just found it to be an interesting read for me. No harm, no foul, no blood, no ambulance. What you are doing is trying to twist my words.

By the way, I never said that I would wreck your car, I just said that I would point out your paint flaws. Again, you've twisted my words.

In the leather conditioning thread you tried to do the same thing. That didn't work out so well. I understand that you are a fan of Zaino so it really doesn't bother me at all. I see stuff like this here and there on the web and it comes with the territory. But here's my suggestion to you. Pump up the product you use instead of trying to shoot down what you feel is the competition. You see me on this forum (an other forums) tout the performance of Zaino whenever asked. I have not deleted my videos on You Tube that clearly show me using and discussing Zaino. Sal Zaino himself thanked me for posting those. So instead of trying to find fault in anything that I post, create some paint correction videos of you fixing some rides using the products of your choice. That will go a lot further for the product you support than you trying to shoot me down and twist my words at every chance you get.