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PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 06:55 AM

CamaroDreams is the first person I've ever heard of, that wished to go back to Shorties, after getting long tubes. That's with any person, and any car. lol I say if you just want sound, and not have to worry about emissions, get shorties. they use the stock cats.

as for sound better, i'm not sure, i'd have to listen to one in person, on these v6's. lol

Monchy36 · 10-07-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

CamaroDreams is the first person I've ever heard of, that wished to go back to Shorties, after getting long tubes. That's with any person, and any car. lol I say if you just want sound, and not have to worry about emissions, get shorties. they use the stock cats.

as for sound better, i'm not sure, i'd have to listen to one in person, on these v6's. lol

I'm not worried about emissions, I have the tune, but if the sound is not different from LT vs ST the price is a big difference...

PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 07:05 AM

yeah, I can't comment on the sound personally, but I think most people that went from shorties to long tubes, prefer the long tubes. just a matter of opinion I guess.

CamaroDreams07 · 10-07-2013, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Monchy36

I'm not worried about emissions, I have the tune, but if the sound is not different from LT vs ST the price is a big difference...

The sound was immensely better on shorties. If you want to chase a few extra HP, go long tubes. If you don't, get DT shorties and be done with it.

With long tubes you need cats, tune, and x pipe. Shorties you just weld on and go.

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CamaroDreams07 · 10-07-2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

yeah, I can't comment on the sound personally, but I think most people that went from shorties to long tubes, prefer the long tubes. just a matter of opinion I guess.

Right after I spent all the money, I too tried to convince myself that I liked it better. I just can't do it. The car is still slow and now sounds much worse than it did. The edge and aggressiveness is gone from the muffler.

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PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 07:53 AM

I wouldn't say you NEED cats. but bbk comes with a set of hi flows, he's got the tune already, and xpipe depends on what kind of catback/axleback exhaust you have. I had corsa catback and bbk long tubes, no xpipe, and it sounded great. pretty quiet down low, but when you stomp on the gas, it sounded mean. well, mean for a v6. lol

PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 07:58 AM

In other news, this was PA Saturday morning. Very beautiful:

PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 08:00 AM

menendez1293 · 10-07-2013, 08:52 AM

Have to say the best setup I have heard on the LLT in my opinion is Kevin's with Lil' Nasty's as a runner up.

lscamaro · 10-07-2013, 09:45 AM

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Fade as in wear out? I want to start autocrossing next year. Season is over here already too cold. I went to the last event, my god was it awesome. No Camaros, but 3 newer vettes and 2 gt500s

No, I mean fade as in after you've been competing for awhile, if you have no brake upgrades your brakes will begin to "not brake" as they did in the beginning. The brakes will begin to fade and not slow you down as they did in the beginning. This happens because the brakes begin to get too hot. The brembos are better at not allowing this. But I'm not sure if that's a problem for autocrossing as opposed to road racing.

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Originally Posted by Monchy36

If I understand shorties sound better, no tune need it and no scraping under, only downside you loose 15hp? What about cats? Shorties use factory cats? No need for the Xpipe either? That doesn't sound bad I'm after the better sound! Not so interested in more HP I don't do track... who can give me a detail review between both?

Monchy if you're going for just sound and not concerned about power whatsoever, I also agree to just do shorties. The shorties sound significantly deeper and throatier than a lot of the long tube setups. They also of course come without the CEL problem and you won't need the x-pipe to reduce rasp. The only problem may be actually get a hold of some shorties. Last I heard, JBA wasn't making them anymore and DT was on a massive backorder. It could've been fixed already but I haven't checked in awhile.

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Have to say the best setup I have heard on the LLT in my opinion is Kevin's with Lil' Nasty's as a runner up.

I personally think that when going after sound, it's all about changing the idle sound and the partial throttle sound. At WOT, all the v6s sound the exact same to me.

Monchy36 · 10-07-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

The sound was immensely better on shorties. If you want to chase a few extra HP, go long tubes. If you don't, get DT shorties and be done with it.

With long tubes you need cats, tune, and x pipe. Shorties you just weld on and go.

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now you change my picture! No welding for me... I though was only replacing stock...

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I wouldn't say you NEED cats. but bbk comes with a set of hi flows, he's got the tune already, and xpipe depends on what kind of catback/axleback exhaust you have. I had corsa catback and bbk long tubes, no xpipe, and it sounded great. pretty quiet down low, but when you stomp on the gas, it sounded mean. well, mean for a v6. lol

so BBK I don't need to make any changes? if I don't get the Xpipe just bolts on? I have Dynomax bullets exhaust. ..

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

In other news, this was PA Saturday morning. Very beautiful:

I was going to ask you about this! Having fun over here?

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Have to say the best setup I have heard on the LLT in my opinion is Kevin's with Lil' Nasty's as a runner up.

Uhhhhh you didn't mention Jewels...

but you right! Kevin sounds good! Buuuttt... I heard a v6 over here with BBK LT, mufles delete and resonator delete... sounds amazing!!!

PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Monchy36

so BBK I don't need to make any changes? if I don't get the Xpipe just bolts on? I have Dynomax bullets exhaust. ..

I was going to ask you about this! Having fun over here?

that is correct, bbk just bolts on. you don't need an xpipe, if you can handle the rasp. lol something you can add later, if you don't like how it sounds.

we had a great time! it was a very short trip, we are back home now.

jewel25 · 10-07-2013, 09:59 AM

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Uhhhhh you didn't mention Jewels...

but you right! Kevin sounds good! Buuuttt... I heard a v6 over here with BBK LT, mufles delete and resonator delete... sounds amazing!!!

it is okay, the car gets me to A to B. I am kind of bummed after the hit and run on Thursday.

The trip was amazing. I can't wait to move back to PA in a few years. It is so beautiful this time of year.

menendez1293 · 10-07-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Monchy36

Uhhhhh you didn't mention Jewels...

but you right! Kevin sounds good! Buuuttt... I heard a v6 over here with BBK LT, mufles delete and resonator delete... sounds amazing!!!

I haven't heard jewels in person and don't like to comment on a system till I have heard it in person. Heck I wasn't sure if I was getting the V2s till I heard them in person but when I did hear them I knew it was the sound I was after

10-07-2013, 06:55 AM	#15387
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	CamaroDreams is the first person I've ever heard of, that wished to go back to Shorties, after getting long tubes. That's with any person, and any car. lol I say if you just want sound, and not have to worry about emissions, get shorties. they use the stock cats. as for sound better, i'm not sure, i'd have to listen to one in person, on these v6's. lol __________________

10-07-2013, 07:05 AM	#15389
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	yeah, I can't comment on the sound personally, but I think most people that went from shorties to long tubes, prefer the long tubes. just a matter of opinion I guess. __________________

10-07-2013, 07:53 AM	#15392
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	I wouldn't say you NEED cats. but bbk comes with a set of hi flows, he's got the tune already, and xpipe depends on what kind of catback/axleback exhaust you have. I had corsa catback and bbk long tubes, no xpipe, and it sounded great. pretty quiet down low, but when you stomp on the gas, it sounded mean. well, mean for a v6. lol __________________

10-07-2013, 07:58 AM	#15393
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	In other news, this was PA Saturday morning. Very beautiful: __________________

10-07-2013, 08:00 AM	#15394
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	__________________

10-07-2013, 08:52 AM	#15395
menendez1293 Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 9,686 View My Garage	Have to say the best setup I have heard on the LLT in my opinion is Kevin's with Lil' Nasty's as a runner up.