Lingenfelter Performance Engineering Customers

[mws444]

Originally Posted by 570hp-lpe

75 is still in second gear!

My wife is scared to get in mine... I drive too fast for her.
The 4 year old LOVES my car.. go figure!

LOL....Yep kids love speed, wives hate it. Nothing better than running 70 mph on freeway and dropping into third...it's like lighting a short fuse then blastoff!

[Blue70SS]

Originally Posted by RS-SS2

Blue70SS, who knows maybe we crossed paths already at the SEMA Show.
Look forward to meeting you, hopefully the weather holds up and if you have time we can take her out for a lil spin.

Pleasure meeting 2010 BADSS and you. Really appreciate getting to checkout your LPE, the ride, etc - awesome setup. Now it's time for more calls and decisions..... wow what an ever changing decision! Been going through the pros and cons of different packages for months!

[Blue70SS]

Hey LPE customers .... a few LPE related questions for you since I'm sure you've all done lots of research. First, I don't want to jack this thread - so just point me in the right direction if topic is somewhere else. I'm getting close to final decision making on my IOM 2SSRS LS3 and you are THE LPE guys/gals!

1) Has anyone done LT headers with 570 or 650 package at LPE and retained thier warranty? (seems like custom tune would be needed unless LPE will do it) "RS-2SS" mentioned valve burning concerns out there
2) Does doing an LPE package and putting on an SLP hood and spoiler tend to change the possible future collectability and value?
3) Doing internals on 650 package makes sense to me, but any history that shows failures on the current LS3 engine in particular, that seems to make it a no brainer?
4) Has anyone had any driveline failures on an LS3 after doing 650 package on LS3?

Thanks, Really appreciate it

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by Blue70SS

Hey LPE customers .... a few LPE related questions for you since I'm sure you've all done lots of research. First, I don't want to jack this thread - so just point me in the right direction if topic is somewhere else. I'm getting close to final decision making on my IOM 2SSRS LS3 and you are THE LPE guys/gals!

1) Has anyone done LT headers with 570 or 650 package at LPE and retained thier warranty? (seems like custom tune would be needed unless LPE will do it) "RS-2SS" mentioned valve burning concerns out there
2) Does doing an LPE package and putting on an SLP hood and spoiler tend to change the possible future collectability and value?
3) Doing internals on 650 package makes sense to me, but any history that shows failures on the current LS3 engine in particular, that seems to make it a no brainer?
4) Has anyone had any driveline failures on an LS3 after doing 650 package on LS3?

Thanks, Really appreciate it

Blue 70SS, I would suggest if you are firm on installing headers you have Lingenelter install them as part of the package. Any tuning issues would then be a moot point.
As far as "collect-ability" goes, I would be more concerned with the header issue than the hood issue.
Future collector value is somewhat of a diluted point now days. One sees unmolested "all original" cars still taking huge value but the market is very small. The production numbers of a lot of these old cars can't come close to the production numbers today.
If you noticed, Resto-mods value seem to be surpassing all but the most desirable "all original" cars due to the fact people want drive ability. This will come back to the header issue as engine compartment overheating has always been an issue with headers.
The 650 package with forged internals would be a must for any long term value. Put yourself in the future purchaser's shoes. You looking at buying a car you know has been "pushed". Would you want to know it has the strongest available parts in the heart of the engine? Or factory parts made to run a de-tuned stock motor?
I would recommend upgrading the half shafts at least with the drive train. If you plan on staying with stock rubber, you may not have a problem with the stock ones. If you are planning on track play with drag radials or slicks, I would definitely upgrade.
Some of the other Brothers, and Sisters, here who have stick cars can attest to the upgrades clutches. That whole manual trans thing is way to much work for me!
Take it from someone who researches things too much, you will be happy with any work you have on your Camaro at Lingenfelter Performance Engineering.

[mws444]

Windy has covered about everything with your post Blue. The only thing I would add is with headers you will lose boost, but increase a little power. Most tuners then change the pulley ratio to gain back some boost. There is a limit to how fast you can spin the supercharger, belt slipping will become an issue.
With the 650 LPE package they about max out the boost you can get out of the TVS2300, only because of the forged botom end and do a lot of head work and change out the cam to maximize everything. The only way to get more horsepower and not lose long term relaibility is to step up to a forged LS7 with a blower.
You will find a lot of shops maxing boost in stock engines making gobs of HP, if they were to drive like I do, a new engine would be needed about every 10,000 miles if not less.
LPE makes Power that will last. Nough said

[RS-SS2]

Originally Posted by Blue70SS

Pleasure meeting 2010 BADSS and you. Really appreciate getting to checkout your LPE, the ride, etc - awesome setup. Now it's time for more calls and decisions..... wow what an ever changing decision! Been going through the pros and cons of different packages for months!

Blue, I'm glad we had the opportunity to meet you and your family, always fun to talk cars.

I know it is a hard decision when trying to decide on a company to do performance upgrades so I'm glad you had the opportunity to see a LPE car in person.

Give Kevin at LPE a call this upcoming week and he can answer the header question for you in detail as well as any other questions you may have. I believe all of the 650 guys and gals on this thread have upgraded the clutch and the half shafts and some of the 570 guys have or will be doing so as well. Good luck with your research, I know if you choose LPE you wont be disappointed. Keep us posted.

Blue, I want to thank you for tip on the clutch, brake fluid reservoir mod. I think i will get on that mod asap. I may need to pm you for a bit more info on it.

[2010 BADSS]

Originally Posted by Blue70SS

Hey LPE customers .... a few LPE related questions for you since I'm sure you've all done lots of research. First, I don't want to jack this thread - so just point me in the right direction if topic is somewhere else. I'm getting close to final decision making on my IOM 2SSRS LS3 and you are THE LPE guys/gals!

1) Has anyone done LT headers with 570 or 650 package at LPE and retained thier warranty? (seems like custom tune would be needed unless LPE will do it) "RS-2SS" mentioned valve burning concerns out there
2) Does doing an LPE package and putting on an SLP hood and spoiler tend to change the possible future collectability and value?
3) Doing internals on 650 package makes sense to me, but any history that shows failures on the current LS3 engine in particular, that seems to make it a no brainer?
4) Has anyone had any driveline failures on an LS3 after doing 650 package on LS3?

Thanks, Really appreciate it

Blue70SS, It was nice to meet you and your great family while you were in our neck of the woods. I would consider the LPE package SLP hood and spoiler valuable upgrades, but I would definitely keep your stock parts just in case. So far I have not heard about any driveline failures following the 650 package so far. Only time will tell, but I would definitely consider the half shaft upgrade and if your car is manual, the clutch upgrade. Just go back and look at the stock half shafts, and you can see that this might be the weak link. Also, if you have a chance when you're travelling, try to visit LPE's shop in Decatur. Good Luck, and Happy Modding!

[Windy City]

See drag wheel and tire photos/information here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54168

[600hp-lpe]

Originally Posted by Windy City

See drag wheel and tire photos/information here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54168

Those look cool... you tried them out yet?

They look taller than the stock ones out back.

Nice Fuzzy dice BTW...

[Graham Behan]

"With the 650 LPE package they about max out the boost you can get out of the TVS2300,"

The 650 hp package is, by no means a "maxed out" TVS 2300, but is a reliable, refined package at that power level. That is not saying that making 650 hp on a stock bottom end is immediately going to be a grenade. We have been working with FI LS based engines since 1998 and have covered a wide range of power output options. We were already working on Eaton TVS systems back in 2007 and Magnussen 112 systems back in 2001 with both stock and modified engines. Our philosophy is to build reliable, driveable packages with reasonable safety factors that allow them to be durable under adverse conditions.

Graham.

[Abygale]

Originally Posted by Graham Behan

With the 650 LPE package they about max out the boost you can get out of the TVS2300,

The 650 hp package is, by no means a "maxed out" TVS 2300, but is a reliable, refined package at that power level. That is not saying that making 650 hp on a stock bottom end is immediately going to be a grenade. We have been working with FI LS based engines since 1998 and have covered a wide range of power output options. We were already working on Eaton TVS systems back in 2007 and Magnussen 112 systems back in 2001 with both stock and modified engines. Our philosophy is to build reliable, driveable packages with reasonable safety factors that allow them to be durable under adverse conditions.

Graham.

Graham has spoken!!!! :

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by Graham Behan

"With the 650 LPE package they about max out the boost you can get out of the TVS2300,"

The 650 hp package is, by no means a "maxed out" TVS 2300, but is a reliable, refined package at that power level. That is not saying that making 650 hp on a stock bottom end is immediately going to be a grenade. We have been working with FI LS based engines since 1998 and have covered a wide range of power output options. We were already working on Eaton TVS systems back in 2007 and Magnussen 112 systems back in 2001 with both stock and modified engines. Our philosophy is to build reliable, driveable packages with reasonable safety factors that allow them to be durable under adverse conditions.

Graham.

Yea, and then make 2010 Camaro's go really, really fast!!!!!!!!!!!

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Windy City

Yea, and then make 2010 Camaro's go really, really fast!!!!!!!!!!!

Make that really Really REALLY FAST!

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by 570hp-lpe

Those look cool... you tried them out yet?

They look taller than the stock ones out back.

Nice Fuzzy dice BTW...

No, haven't had her at the track yet. I have not taken possession of my trailer as it's still being fabricated and I think all the local tracks gave up for the winter by now.

The dice are from the Classic Car museum in Vegas!