12-31-2022, 10:16 AM | #155 |
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Oh no let me trade in my EV right now......
The ICE lobbyists have now convinced me EV's suck because a general issue in LA has now proved EV's are impractical..... |
01-01-2023, 12:41 AM | #156 |
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Do any of the EV crowd here know what caused some of the public fast chargers to not work in the cold? I could speculate maybe their cables or pumps froze. They should have anti-freeze. But I don't care just enough to seek out what really happened.
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01-01-2023, 07:46 AM | #157 |
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Crappy equipment. Electrify America has known reliability issues.
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01-03-2023, 10:36 PM | #158 |
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01-04-2023, 12:56 AM | #159 |
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Build hybrids. They don't need charging stations. Problem solved.
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01-04-2023, 12:18 PM | #160 |
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Except that they still have carbon and particulate emissions which is the real problem that automakers are trying to solve.
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01-04-2023, 01:04 PM | #162 |
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Would people actually want a hybrid Camaro? There were threads about GM surveying for it Have minds changed? I could see a 6.2at trim with a +hp hybrid going over. Maybe, maybe not.
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01-04-2023, 01:14 PM | #163 |
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I'm not sure I buy this honestly. Zero emissions may be the front end marketing push for the media and thus the unwashed masses, but if anyone knows, it's the automakers that EVs are a base hit at best in terms of emissions reduction and not a homerun if you factor in the entire picture and not just tailpipe.
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01-04-2023, 01:45 PM | #164 |
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Yeah right. How much carbon is emitted during construction of these charging stations? No need perpetuating the charade. It's all about max profit with the automakers just like its always been. Almost as bad as when a company refers to its employees as "family". If they can save the company a nickel by eliminating your position they will. It's currently chic for big companies to throw out the "Zero Emissions" buzzword(s) in an attempt to make people believe they care. It's both humorous and pathetic at the same time.
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Hybrids make sense, harvesting what would be wasted energy is efficient, assuming the savings outweighs what goes into adding hybrid capacity. EV's on the other hand do not make sense and won't for the foreseeable future. The linked video said it pretty well. EVs are nowhere near zero emissions and when evaluated correctly are probably worse for the environment than most current ICE vehicles. |
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So yes, there may be carbon emissions in building each charging station. And there are carbon emissions in building each electric vehicle. There are also carbon emissions in building each ICE vehicle. The difference is, once all those things are built, the carbon impact for each of those things is over…banked. With an ICE vehicle you get an additional carbon impact every time you turn the key.
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You are not wrong.
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