Fuse pull highly recommended

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by IROC U

Can someone please do concise step by step instructions on doing the fuse pull. Thank you.

1) turn off Camaro

2) open hood

3) open fuse box

4) remove the white fuse-picker-upper tool

5) using the white fuse-picker-upper tool remove fuses #5 and #20. Please reference the underside of the fuse box lid for reference as to which fuses are #5 and #20.

6) put fuses in pocket

7) put the white fuse-picker-upper tool back into its holder

8) close fuse box lid

9) close hood

10) go inside and put fuses somewhere where you won't lose them

11) the next day: repeat steps 1-9 except put the fuses back instead of removing them.

12) enjoy your Camaro.

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by stieger

1) turn off Camaro

2) open hood

3) open fuse box

4) remove the white fuse-picker-upper tool

5) using the white fuse-picker-upper tool remove fuses #5 and #20. Please reference the underside of the fuse box lid for reference as to which fuses are #5 and #20.

6) put fuses in pocket

7) put the white fuse-picker-upper tool back into its holder

8) close fuse box lid

9) close hood

10) go inside and put fuses somewhere where you won't lose them

11) the next day: repeat steps 1-9 except put the fuses back instead of removing them.

12) enjoy your Camaro.

Suggestion.

Change #9 to say LEAVE HOOD OPEN
Add Step #12 CLOSE HOOD

This way, you won't forget that you took the fuses out, and try to start th ecar the next day and wonder why it won't start.

[zl1bro]

^LOL

[Cdubbcamaro]

I have a zl1 with ligenfelter 630 kit. I've been reading this thread and I been wondering what did gm or the dealership put in the gas tank. Plus I go to one gas station for 93 since day one but I've have had 91 a couple times. I have follow the break in period and change oil and diff. At 1550 miles. Got on it a lot at wow and then at 1800 miles I put on the kit and tune. Very powerfull. Now at 2200 miles I did the fuse pull. 3 hours later put fuses back in. Then I drove it. All I got to say is dddaamm dam! This mf is fast. I really feel the difference
When you first drive it get on it hard then drive it how you drive. Dam what beast.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by The Stig

1) turn off Camaro

2) open hood

3) open fuse box

4) remove the white fuse-picker-upper tool

5) using the white fuse-picker-upper tool remove fuses #5 and #20. Please reference the underside of the fuse box lid for reference as to which fuses are #5 and #20.

6) put fuses in pocket

7) put the white fuse-picker-upper tool back into its holder

8) close fuse box lid

9) close hood

10) go inside and put fuses somewhere where you won't lose them

11) the next day: repeat steps 1-9 except put the fuses back instead of removing them.

12) enjoy your Camaro.

Should probably add the trunk fuse as well.

Ya?
No?



It's in GMs service call.

[PQ]

Or maybe we should just say 'Undo the two large clips under the ECU'.......

[KKreme15]

Originally Posted by PQ

Should probably add the trunk fuse as well.

Ya?
No?



It's in GMs service call.

Which trunk fuse?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by KKreme15

Which trunk fuse?

I didn't drive my car today and I forgot to take a picture. I'll see if I can find one.

[PQ]

I have, however, found this info on b o w t i e v 6 .com and and the schematics are the same as the SS. So this will clear up any confusion about what fuses go to what. There are three fuse boxes. I've heard it said that the #20 fuse is a spare and the #5 fuse is to the air. So this shows why that is correct in the cabin fuse box but not the engine compartment fuse box.




J-Case Fuses Usage

Fuse 6 Wiper
Fuse 12 Starter
Fuse 22 Brake Vacuum Pump
Fuse 25 Power Windows Rear
Fuse 26 Power Windows Front
Fuse 27 Rear Defog
Fuse 41 Cooling Fan High
Fuse 42 Front Heater, Ventilation and Air Conditioning
Fuse 43 Antilock Brake System Pump
Fuse 44 Cooling Fan Low

Mini Fuses Usage

Fuse 1 Air Conditioning Compressor Clutch
Fuse 2 Transmission Control Module
Fuse 5 Engine Control Module Main
Fuse 7 Pre-Catalytic Converter Oxygen Sensor
Fuse 8 Post-Catalytic Converter Oxygen Sensor
Fuse 9 Fuel Injectors - Even
Fuse 10 Fuel Injectors - Odd
Fuse 11 Cooling Fan Relay
Fuse 14 Manifold Air Flow/Chassis Control
Fuse 15 Ignition
Fuse 16 Run/Crank IP
Fuse 17 Sensing Diagnostic Module/Ignition
Fuse 18 Run/Crank Body
Fuse 19 Transmission Control Module/Ignition
Fuse 20 Engine Control Module/Ignition
Fuse 31 Outside Rear View Mirror
Fuse 32 Canister Vent Solenoid
Fuse 33 Body Control Module #6
Fuse 34 Sunroof
Fuse 35 Front Heated Seats
Fuse 38 Washer Pump Front
Fuse 40 Antilock Brake System Valves
Fuse 46 HID Headlamp - Left Front
Fuse 47 HID Headlamp - Right Front
Fuse 50 Fog Lamps
Fuse 51 Horn
Fuse 52 Spare
Fuse 55 High Beam Headlamp - Right Front
Fuse 56 High Beam Headlamp -Left Front
Fuse 61 Heated Mirror

Mini Relays Usage

Relay K26 Powertrain
Relay K50 Run / Crank
Relay K55 Rear Defog
Relay K612 Cooling Fan High
Relay K614 Cooling Fan Control
Micro Relays Usage
Relay K61 Starter
Relay K69 Wiper Control
Relay K613 Cooling Fan Low
Relay K617 Air Conditioning Compressor Clutch
Relay K619 Wiper Speed
Relay K627 High Intensity Discharge Headlamps
Relay K632 Brake Vacuum Pump




Fuses Usage

F1 Discrete Logic Ignition Switch
F2 Diagnostic Link Connector
F3 Airbag
F4 Cluster
F5 Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning Controller
F6 Body Control Module
F8 Battery
F9 Spare
F10 Spare
F11 Not Used
F12 Spare
F13 Display
F14 OnStar® Universal Hands Free Phone
F15 Body Control Module 3
F16 Body Control Module 4
F17 Power Outlet 1
F18 Power Outlet 2
F19 Steering Wheel Controls Backlight
F20 Spare
F21 Spare
F22 Not Used
F23 Trunk
F24 Automatic Occupant Sensing
F25 Body Control Module 1
F27 Body Control Module 8
F28 Spare
F29 Body Control Module 5
F30 Body Control Module 7

Circuit Breakers Usage

CB7 Passenger Seat
CB26 Driver Seat

Relays Usage

K10 Retained Accessory Power
K605 Not Used
K609 Trunk




Fuses Usage
F1 Universal Garage Door Opener/Ultra-sonic Reverse Parking Aid
F2 Amplifier
F3 Radio
F4 Spare
F5 Convertible Top 1
F6 Convertible Top 2
F7 Spare
F8 Spare
F9 Spare
F10 Spare
F11 Spare
F12 Spare
F13 Engine Control Module/Battery
F14 Regulated Voltage Control
F15 Fuel System Control Module
F16 Spare

[IcePick06]

I guess this fuse pull mod doesn't apply to me since I live in CA and only have access to 91 octane anyway so my car is already at the "lowest fuel table"...but I still try to drive it like I stole it every now and then so the system learns my good driving habits

[KKreme15]

Originally Posted by PQ

I have, however, found this info on b o w t i e v 6 .com and and the schematics are the same as the SS. So this will clear up any confusion about what fuses go to what. There are three fuse boxes. I've heard it said that the #20 fuse is a spare and the #5 fuse is to the air. So this shows why that is correct in the cabin fuse box but not the engine compartment fuse box.

Attachment 433374
Attachment 433375

J-Case Fuses Usage

Fuse 6 Wiper
Fuse 12 Starter
Fuse 22 Brake Vacuum Pump
Fuse 25 Power Windows Rear
Fuse 26 Power Windows Front
Fuse 27 Rear Defog
Fuse 41 Cooling Fan High
Fuse 42 Front Heater, Ventilation and Air Conditioning
Fuse 43 Antilock Brake System Pump
Fuse 44 Cooling Fan Low

Mini Fuses Usage

Fuse 1 Air Conditioning Compressor Clutch
Fuse 2 Transmission Control Module
Fuse 5 Engine Control Module Main
Fuse 7 Pre-Catalytic Converter Oxygen Sensor
Fuse 8 Post-Catalytic Converter Oxygen Sensor
Fuse 9 Fuel Injectors - Even
Fuse 10 Fuel Injectors - Odd
Fuse 11 Cooling Fan Relay
Fuse 14 Manifold Air Flow/Chassis Control
Fuse 15 Ignition
Fuse 16 Run/Crank IP
Fuse 17 Sensing Diagnostic Module/Ignition
Fuse 18 Run/Crank Body
Fuse 19 Transmission Control Module/Ignition
Fuse 20 Engine Control Module/Ignition
Fuse 31 Outside Rear View Mirror
Fuse 32 Canister Vent Solenoid
Fuse 33 Body Control Module #6
Fuse 34 Sunroof
Fuse 35 Front Heated Seats
Fuse 38 Washer Pump Front
Fuse 40 Antilock Brake System Valves
Fuse 46 HID Headlamp - Left Front
Fuse 47 HID Headlamp - Right Front
Fuse 50 Fog Lamps
Fuse 51 Horn
Fuse 52 Spare
Fuse 55 High Beam Headlamp - Right Front
Fuse 56 High Beam Headlamp -Left Front
Fuse 61 Heated Mirror

Mini Relays Usage

Relay K26 Powertrain
Relay K50 Run / Crank
Relay K55 Rear Defog
Relay K612 Cooling Fan High
Relay K614 Cooling Fan Control
Micro Relays Usage
Relay K61 Starter
Relay K69 Wiper Control
Relay K613 Cooling Fan Low
Relay K617 Air Conditioning Compressor Clutch
Relay K619 Wiper Speed
Relay K627 High Intensity Discharge Headlamps
Relay K632 Brake Vacuum Pump

Attachment 433376
Attachment 433377

Fuses Usage

F1 Discrete Logic Ignition Switch
F2 Diagnostic Link Connector
F3 Airbag
F4 Cluster
F5 Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning Controller
F6 Body Control Module
F8 Battery
F9 Spare
F10 Spare
F11 Not Used
F12 Spare
F13 Display
F14 OnStar® Universal Hands Free Phone
F15 Body Control Module 3
F16 Body Control Module 4
F17 Power Outlet 1
F18 Power Outlet 2
F19 Steering Wheel Controls Backlight
F20 Spare
F21 Spare
F22 Not Used
F23 Trunk
F24 Automatic Occupant Sensing
F25 Body Control Module 1
F27 Body Control Module 8
F28 Spare
F29 Body Control Module 5
F30 Body Control Module 7

Circuit Breakers Usage

CB7 Passenger Seat
CB26 Driver Seat

Relays Usage

K10 Retained Accessory Power
K605 Not Used
K609 Trunk

Attachment 433378
Attachment 433379

Fuses Usage
F1 Universal Garage Door Opener/Ultra-sonic Reverse Parking Aid
F2 Amplifier
F3 Radio
F4 Spare
F5 Convertible Top 1
F6 Convertible Top 2
F7 Spare
F8 Spare
F9 Spare
F10 Spare
F11 Spare
F12 Spare
F13 Engine Control Module/Battery
F14 Regulated Voltage Control
F15 Fuel System Control Module
F16 Spare

So F13 in the trunk?

[VQ35DE]

Yes.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by KKreme15

So F13 in the trunk?

Correct.

Here is the PIP from GM.

#PIP4728: Higher Than Expected 0-60 MPH (97 KPH) Acceleration Time - (Nov 4, 2009)


Subject: Higher Than Expected 0-60 MPH (97 KPH) Acceleration Time


Models: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro

with V8 Active Fuel Management Engine (RPO L99)

and 6 Speed Automatic Transmission (RPO MYC)




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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Some customers may complain of higher than expected 0-60 MPH (97 KPH) acceleration times when hot ambient temperatures are present. In some cases, they may report 0-60 times around 7 seconds.

This may be the result of the vehicle being filled with regular grade unleaded gasoline at one time. If the vehicle has been filled with regular unleaded gasoline, the ECM may be compensating for the lower octane by retarding the ignition timing during certain driving conditions.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If SI diagnosis does not isolate the cause of this concern, perform the suggestions below if the customer wants the best performance from their Camaro:

In an area where it is legal to do so, take a snapshot of a 0-60 WOT acceleration event and compare the vehicle speed parameter to the snapshot timer to determine the 0-60 MPH time.
Determine what gasoline octane the customer has been filling the vehicle with.
• 2a. If they have never used anything but premium unleaded with a posted octane of 93 or higher, go to step 3.

• 2b. If they occasionally use regular or mid-grade gasoline, the gasoline must be removed from the tank and it must be refilled with premium fuel of 93 octane or greater. This can be done by advising the customer to switch to premium fuel of 93 octane or greater and returning after a few tanks of premium fuel have been consumed. Or, if immediate results are necessary, drain the fuel tank, refill it with premium fuel of 93 octane or greater, and drive the vehicle at least 15 miles to purge the old fuel out of the fuel rail and lines.

Reprogram the ECM with the latest TIS2Web calibrations to reset the ECM adapts. Normally this reset can also be accomplished by pulling the 2 main ECM fuses (F13R and F20U) shown in the ECM Power, Ground, MIL, and Serial Data Schematic (SI Document # 2209065).
In an area where it is legal to do so, take another snapshot of a 0-60 WOT acceleration event and compare it to the original snapshot to determine if the 0-60 MPH time has increased. If an increase is noted, advise the customer that they should only use premium unleaded gasoline with a posted octane rating of 93 or higher to continue getting the best performance from their Camaro. This is outlined on page 8-45 of the owner's manual. GM Connect Message G_0000037144 was also sent out on 9/2/2009 about filling stock units with premium gasoline.

[Mil]

So there is 3 fuses we gotta pull???

Fuse 5 Engine Control Module Main
Fuse 20 Engine Control Module/Ignition

and the one in the trunk
F13 Engine Control Module/Battery?