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rdono · 06-11-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasty

... that is an awesome idea, thanks for the info and pics.... HOWEVER I am afraid for your wife riding in a seat modified like that. The torsionial forces on those 6 bolts is going to be EXTREME in the case of an accident. I know it would be a bit more work, but you will be safer in the long run if you can get two pieces of solid square stock (aluminum or iron) and drill the holes for the bolts through that (one piece per rail), which will tie the sides together better. Still may not be quite as strong as stock, but moreso than how you have it now. I will look to do something similar, I think, but with a slight taper, raising the front edge of the seat more than the rear, which should help with leg support.

UPP that is the way to go. And no disrespect towards anyone from GM but they run so scared they forgot what it means to be car guy, a hot rodder. More automotive improvements have come from the users than their core of engineers. And I can't believe they didn't catch this mistake up front, that seat should have been made manual adjustable and they know it. As for loosing any warranty or insurance coverage thats just plan nonsense, as is the sensor excuse. Like the sensors knows it is an inch or two higher.

OC CAMARO · 06-11-2010, 09:04 PM

My mom and sister both complain about this every time they get in the car. We need something !

superstockcam · 06-11-2010, 09:27 PM

I'm would like to install a driver side seat on the Passenger side but I don't know about the air bags???

SlingShot · 06-11-2010, 09:37 PM

My thought on this whole thing is, why couldn't we take the seat pump system from the LS and retro fit it to the passenger side so we would have a safe way to raise the seat ...

Toasty · 06-11-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

My thought on this whole thing is, why couldn't we take the seat pump system from the LS and retro fit it to the passenger side so we would have a safe way to raise the seat ...

I guess I haven't sat in an LS... what is this seat pump system?

RB43TD · 06-13-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

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monstertodd · 06-13-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toasty

I guess I haven't sat in an LS... what is this seat pump system?

Yes, what is this seat pump system?

bi11ymc · 06-13-2010, 09:55 AM

The non-electric driver seats have a lever that when you pump it, raises the seat height, or so I have read.

SlingShot · 06-13-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Toasty

I guess I haven't sat in an LS... what is this seat pump system?

It's my understanding the LS has a manual pump system to raise and lower the drivers seat. ( Someone with a LS may want to confirm this ) If this the case, there is no reason there couldn't be a right hand system produced for the passenger side of the car. Also with it being a manual system there would be no issues with the wiring harness, and hopefully there is enough slack in the existing one to raise the seat by say 1.5 - 2.0 inches ... Just my thought ...

Number 3 · 06-13-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rdono

UPP that is the way to go. And no disrespect towards anyone from GM but they run so scared they forgot what it means to be car guy, a hot rodder. More automotive improvements have come from the users than their core of engineers. And I can't believe they didn't catch this mistake up front, that seat should have been made manual adjustable and they know it. As for loosing any warranty or insurance coverage thats just plan nonsense, as is the sensor excuse. Like the sensors knows it is an inch or two higher.

My first thought is, "ha, you're funny". Forgot what it means to be a car guy? That is pretty funny. But then when you indicate you aren't clear on how the occupant system works, then I felt I just needed to make sure it was clear. You are correct, the seat matt itself can't tell the height of the seat, that isn't the issue. The issue is that when you raise the seat, you change the amount of the occupants weight that the matt detects, and thus affect the airbag supression system.

Also, if you guys would simply just review the high level MVSS requirements that the OEMs are required to meet for safety and crash, you wouldn't be complaining about this. It is a multifaceted engineering problem that if you just did a litte teeny bit of research on line you would quickly see why it isn't an easy fix.

camaro guy · 06-14-2010, 12:05 AM

yes the LS has a hand pump operation. i could take pictures if you like.

saabsonic · 08-01-2010, 12:22 AM

The 2010 Camaro definitely needs some way to raise the passenger seat, as you can with the driver's seat. It's an oversight in an otherwise amazing car. Hope that those of us "in the know" will inform others as soon as a GM/aftermarket supplier makes a height-adjustable platform available!

Alfieboy · 08-01-2010, 01:05 AM

Sevn86 · 08-01-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfieboy

Do you mind sharing some of your popcorn with me? I ran out a long time ago just waiting for a fix...

06-11-2010, 09:27 PM	#157
superstockcam Member Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Where you vacation...Tahoe Posts: 928	I'm would like to install a driver side seat on the Passenger side but I don't know about the air bags??? __________________ .

06-11-2010, 09:37 PM	#158
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	My thought on this whole thing is, why couldn't we take the seat pump system from the LS and retro fit it to the passenger side so we would have a safe way to raise the seat ... __________________

06-13-2010, 09:55 AM	#162
bi11ymc "Silver Street" Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 707	The non-electric driver seats have a lever that when you pump it, raises the seat height, or so I have read. __________________ Silver Street - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS, SIM, Gray, Cyber Gray Rally Stripes, Polished Wheels, Automatic (L99) - 553 RWHP/510 RWTQ CAI Inc., ARH LT Headers with Cats, Borla Touring Cat-Back; Pfadt Coil Overs, Sway Bars, End Links, and Trailing Arms; Comp Cams Blower Cam, Dual Springs, Push-Rods, and Lifters; GM LS2 Lifter Trays, 6.2 MLS Head Gaskets, Crank Bolt, and LS2 Front Cover; 3-Bolt Conversion Timing Gear, Katech C5R Timing Chain, ARP LS2/LS3 Head Bolt Kit, Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump, TVS 2300 Supercharger (Black); Build by Vengeance Racing; Custom Tune by Vengeance Racing

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saabsonic Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 1SS RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Forestville, CA Posts: 50	The 2010 Camaro definitely needs some way to raise the passenger seat, as you can with the driver's seat. It's an oversight in an otherwise amazing car. Hope that those of us "in the know" will inform others as soon as a GM/aftermarket supplier makes a height-adjustable platform available!